Yes, the absence of a holster to cover and protect the trigger. Carrying with a clipdraw and a round chambered is the most dangerous way to carry a Glock that I know of.

 

With the Clipdraw, there is NOTHING covering the trigger/trigger guard protecting it from accidentally being pulled/pushed/activated. Anything that gets into the trigger guard could easily activate the trigger and make you have a tremendously bad day.

The only way to carry a Glock safely is with something that covers the entire trigger guard therefore eliminating the potential for something to "sneak in" and make it go bang.

For giggles, make sure the gun is unloaded and no ammo is in the room, then rack the slide and "holster it". See how easy/difficult it could be for something to catch the trigger. In jeans - you might not have too much of an issue due to the thicker material, but depending on where you carry it could fall on top of a pocket, which is very thin material.

 

Yes, the absence of a holster to cover and protect the trigger. Carrying with a clipdraw and a round chambered is the most dangerous way to carry a Glock that I know of.

Actually, I think carrying a chambered Glock with nothing at all but the support of a waistband is the most dangerous. Plaxico comes to mind. At least the clipdraw would try to keep it from falling down your sweatpants!!

 

There are lots of threads on this with lots of hands thrown up in horror but looked at rationally the situation is far from terrifying.

The warning is to give legal cover to ClipDraw but how many accidental discharges do we hear about relative to the hudreds of thousand they have sold? The use of the back plate makes no difference to the action of the trigger and you can, if you wish, get a version which sticks to the frame or slide.

Something soft and flexible just poking into the trigger guard will not fire the pistol unless something on the far side traps it to form a restrained loop. This happens far too often with proper holsters because the very thing that is supposed to protect the trigger while it is in the holster provides the means of pulling the trigger as you holster. This is actually a lesser risk with a ClipDraw than with a conventional holster. In both cases it is important to look down as you re-holster to make sure that nothing in intruding into the trigger guard. I think there is actually a slight safety advantage to the ClipDraw in this respect.

When it is in place, your belt protects the trigger remarkably well and unless you have very strange protuberances on your body there is nothing on the other side to pull the trigger either. It is easy to convince yourself of this - just cock the pistol without a round in the chamber, clip it on your belt and see how you can get it to "fire" from pressure against something on the outside.

The ClipDraw sounds dangerous until you examine how it can go wrong. It has the advantage of being a thinner package at your waist and of being discardable as a unit if you have to leave your pistol somewhere. It has the disadvantage of not holding the pistol in as fixed a position as a holster and is therefore slower to draw. it is easy to move it from 4O'clock to 2 O'clock to 10 O'clock as your situation changes - driving a car, sitting in a restaurant, wearing a jacket or wearing an untucked shirt.

English

 

People who use the ClipDraw and want to carry one in the chamber usually use the "Safety Block", or whatever it's called. It's hardened plastic/rubber that fits in the trigger guard, preventing trigger from accidentally being activated. Yet, once you pull the gun, you can easily push the Safety Block out with your forefinger, making the gun ready to go.

The owner of my indoor gun range does this, as do several of the workers. I've toyed with the system (unloaded guns)... it seems reliable. Personally.... I use the Crossbreed Supertuck.

 

There are lots of threads on this with lots of hands thrown up in horror but looked at rationally the situation is far from terrifying.

The warning is to give legal cover to ClipDraw but how many accidental discharges do we hear about relative to the hudreds of thousand they have sold? The use of the back plate makes no difference to the action of the trigger and you can, if you wish, get a version which sticks to the frame or slide.

Something soft and flexible just poking into the trigger guard will not fire the pistol unless something on the far side traps it to form a restrained loop. This happens far too often with proper holsters because the very thing that is supposed to protect the trigger while it is in the holster provides the means of pulling the trigger as you holster. This is actually a lesser risk with a ClipDraw than with a conventional holster. In both cases it is important to look down as you re-holster to make sure that nothing in intruding into the trigger guard. I think there is actually a slight safety advantage to the ClipDraw in this respect.

When it is in place, your belt protects the trigger remarkably well and unless you have very strange protuberances on your body there is nothing on the other side to pull the trigger either. It is easy to convince yourself of this - just cock the pistol without a round in the chamber, clip it on your belt and see how you can get it to "fire" from pressure against something on the outside.

The ClipDraw sounds dangerous until you examine how it can go wrong. It has the advantage of being a thinner package at your waist and of being discardable as a unit if you have to leave your pistol somewhere. It has the disadvantage of not holding the pistol in as fixed a position as a holster and is therefore slower to draw. it is easy to move it from 4O'clock to 2 O'clock to 10 O'clock as your situation changes - driving a car, sitting in a restaurant, wearing a jacket or wearing an untucked shirt.

English

MY GOD! What's this! Why it's rational thinking!!! :agree:

Yeah, I've got a "ClipDraw", use it too. Works great with my mdl 36. Nothing in my pants that will fit in the trigger guard to pull the trigger.
I don't carry an unloaded gun.
The CYA disclaimer is pretty much mandatory these days. It's totally impossible to "Idiot Proof" everything. :yawn:

s45

 

Oh Lord......here we go again.:faint:

 

I looked at one, but the thought of an uncovered trigger just isn't a good one to me. The thought would be on my mind that something could snag the trigger from the outside, through my pants. Or reach in to get a wallet and snag it somehow.

I figure why, when there are so many other options out there that do the same job, better? Even a cheap Uncle Mikes sleeve holster holds the gun on place better than the clip draw did. It rocked around too easily and even worked it's way around on the belt.

I know people say "Oh, it's a comfort thing." I don't even feel my good holsters, such as the Crossbreed supertuck. At first, it looks like a large piece of leather, but damn if it doesn't just mold right to me and spread the weight of the gun across a wider area. Not to mention, a good holster keeps the gun from poking you and whatnot, by seperating the gun from your body, with leather, kydex, etc...


Just not my cup of tea I guess.

 

There are lots of threads on this with lots of hands thrown up in horror but looked at rationally the situation is far from terrifying.

The warning is to give legal cover to ClipDraw but how many accidental discharges do we hear about relative to the hudreds of thousand they have sold? The use of the back plate makes no difference to the action of the trigger and you can, if you wish, get a version which sticks to the frame or slide.

Something soft and flexible just poking into the trigger guard will not fire the pistol unless something on the far side traps it to form a restrained loop. This happens far too often with proper holsters because the very thing that is supposed to protect the trigger while it is in the holster provides the means of pulling the trigger as you holster. This is actually a lesser risk with a ClipDraw than with a conventional holster. In both cases it is important to look down as you re-holster to make sure that nothing in intruding into the trigger guard. I think there is actually a slight safety advantage to the ClipDraw in this respect.

When it is in place, your belt protects the trigger remarkably well and unless you have very strange protuberances on your body there is nothing on the other side to pull the trigger either. It is easy to convince yourself of this - just cock the pistol without a round in the chamber, clip it on your belt and see how you can get it to "fire" from pressure against something on the outside.

The ClipDraw sounds dangerous until you examine how it can go wrong. It has the advantage of being a thinner package at your waist and of being discardable as a unit if you have to leave your pistol somewhere. It has the disadvantage of not holding the pistol in as fixed a position as a holster and is therefore slower to draw. it is easy to move it from 4O'clock to 2 O'clock to 10 O'clock as your situation changes - driving a car, sitting in a restaurant, wearing a jacket or wearing an untucked shirt.

English

:wow: You mean there is actually someone else on GlockTalk that understands how the ClipDraw system works? I carry my PF9 regularly, with a round in the chamber, with the ClipDraw system....sometimes IWB, sometimes OWB, sometimes in my boot...

 

I have one on my G-27 and G-36. I carry them with one in the pipe.

But I decided to install 8 lb connectors on both guns as well. I also rounded the edges on the mag release with some 400 grit so it doesn't dig into my flesh.

 

I wouldn't carry anything without a covered trigger, but that is a personal preference.

 

With or without a holster or carry device covering the trigger, everyone knows that Glocks shoot all by themselves. :tongueout:

 

I just ordered up a few Vanguard "holsters" and I am pretty certain these will be *Da Bomb* for me...
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=946986

Covers the entire trigger guard, thinnest 'holster' on the market... just need a sweat shield for the AZ summers... and all will be good!

HTH

 

Yes, the absence of a holster to cover and protect the trigger. Carrying with a clipdraw and a round chambered is the most dangerous way to carry a Glock that I know of.

Here's another: I carry a 10mm Glock with the barrel in my mouth, chambered, Vanek super grand master trigger, and I rest my thumb against the trigger so that I don't accidentally


KA-BLAMMO!!!!!

 

After reading this thread, I've decided to start carrying my Para P14 in Condition "O" (hamer back, safety off), but will pin the grip safety as well...;I will then simply shove it into my wasteband, and hope there are no stray jeans rivets/seams or shirt tails that can ever possibly enter the trigger gaurd unintentionally.

I mean, what could go wrong?

 

Here's another: I carry a 10mm Glock with the barrel in my mouth, chambered, Vanek super grand master trigger, and I rest my thumb against the trigger so that I don't accidentally


KA-BLAMMO!!!!!

Uhmmmm....whiskey tango foxtrot, over?:dunno:

 

After reading this thread, I've decided to start carrying my Para P14 in Condition "O" (hamer back, safety off), but will pin the grip safety as well...;I will then simply shove it into my wasteband, and hope there are no stray jeans rivets/seams or shirt tails that can ever possibly enter the trigger gaurd unintentionally.

I mean, what could go wrong?

:upeyes:

 

So there are folks on here that actually that carry with a round chambered using that clipdraw thing?? Well.... it's still a free country, so more power to ya!

 

After reading this thread, I've decided to start carrying my Para P14 in Condition "O" (hamer back, safety off), but will pin the grip safety as well...;I will then simply shove it into my wasteband, and hope there are no stray jeans rivets/seams or shirt tails that can ever possibly enter the trigger gaurd unintentionally.

I mean, what could go wrong?

Now that is one of the stupidest things I've ever read concerning how to carry a gun. :upeyes:

You do realize of course that utilizing a pin on the grip safety may not be such a good idea. Right? I mean people that know about his sort of thing would never recommend such a foolish act. They would use duct tape around the entire grip as pins have a tendency to fall out and letting the grip safety reengage.






























































:tongueout:

 

So there are folks on here that actually that carry with a round chambered using that clipdraw thing?? Well.... it's still a free country, so more power to ya!

Yep, no problem. You guys who advocate all this "trigger must be covered" stuff do understand that rule was meant to keep your bugger-hook off the trigger while the gun was still in the holster - right?

 

So there are folks on here that actually that carry with a round chambered using that clipdraw thing?? Well.... it's still a free country, so more power to ya!

I carry my PF9 regularly, with a round in the chamber, with the ClipDraw system....sometimes IWB, sometimes OWB, sometimes in my boot...

..reading comprehension FTW...

 

..reading comprehension FTW...

I read and comprehended... Still find it ignorant as hell. But as I stated, knock yourself out or shoot yourself in the ***** for all I care :wavey:

 

I read and comprehended... Still find it ignorant as hell. But as I stated, knock yourself out or shoot yourself in the ***** for all I care :wavey:

ignorant

–adjective
1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.


What knowledge or training am I lacking?

 

I just sat down at the computer and started to read this thread, and I am wearing a G33, chamberd, with a clipdraw on right now. It really amazes me how people will write in exclaiming that I'll be the next Darwin Award winner if I keep carrying my G33 the way I do, and I always repeat that as long as a person wears normal clothing and a belt the clipdraw can be used with a round in the chamber with out any worry of problems.

A holster does two things. It secures a pistol/revolver to a fixed point on the body to be removed and brought into action when ready and it covers the trigger well to ensure that nothing foreign enters and activates the trigger. In the case of the clipdraw the latter is accomplished by using a persons own waist and that of the material of the pants or shorts (maybe in rare cases a kilt) to act as sidewalls to cover the triggerwell. Add a belt to pull all these components together in a tight orderly fashion and walla! you have the same safety measures that a holster offers.

As I've stated before unless I spontaneously mutate a complete finger with all the bones tendons and muscle in the exact spot on my hip where my Glocks triggerwell is resting I don't think I have much to worry about. Of course I'm not saying it's impossible for this to happen....just that it's highly improbable.

The manufactures of the clipdraw have put a disclaimer on their product to prevent some idiot from suing them in the event said person finds a way to out idiot proof a simple clip. This is the same reason why banks and other businesses put "no firearms or weapons on premises" not because they personally believe in banning guns, but because if some one happens to get shot while on their property they can sue if a clear and present statement wasn't posted obsolving the business owner of responsibility of allowing the circumstances to happen in such a way as to allow a person to be shot in the first place.

Don't fear the clipdraw! Understand it and feel safe and secure in the knowledge that you have accuired to handle it without fear of a full on anxiety filled meltdown over a round in the camber being carried without a "traditional" method of carry, in this instance the big, fat, and cumbersome holster of yesteryear.

 

If I didnt go commando all the time, Id use it too. Glock on flesh sometimes is not a good feeling down (t)here in FL :supergrin: