Recently manufactured Win bulk .22 LR has been crap.

 

The P322 barrel that was used in the video is new which might have caused the leading problem.

 

Barrel problem, not ammo. Welcome to the same TX22 nightmare problem of chattered barrels.

 

I didn’t watch the vid, but I gotta say, leading is inconvenient but it doesn’t “ruin” a barrel. Lead is extremely soft compared to the softest steel. And pressures/velocities of 22lr don’t lend themselves to “ruining” anything. Sounds like sensationalism to me. 4000 FPS can erode a 223 barrel over time, but 1100 FPS or so in 22LR isn’t doing squat to squat.

 

>Welcome to the same TX22 nightmare problem of chattered barrels<<

Tell me about it!

 

Twern’t the ammo:

 

 

Bottom line bottom feeder low quality ammo sucks. Don’t use it.
bulk pack is the equivalent of the floor sweepings.
and Winchester and Remington are doing everything they can to earn a reputation as the worst quality 22 ammo on the market
the only domestic 22 ammo I buy is CCI no one else compares quality wise
the cheapest CCI ( blazer) is far better than anything Winchester or Remington puts out.

 

Cheap bulk 22 rf ammo combined with hot barrel causes leading. I’ve noticed leading is not as severe on cool days. I’ve had barrels lead up so I could not get a cleaning rod thru them. When that happens, it’s a 3 day soak in liquid Kroil. I’ve had happen to G44s, Ruger Mk 4s, and a Browning Buckmark.
When shooting my 2 G44s, I carry 2 cleaning rods, one with brush and the other with a patch holder. Only take a few minutes to clean the barrels. On cool days I may go 100 rounds prior to cleaning. On hot days, I clean every 60-70 rounds. If I do a few mag dumps, I’ll clean sooner. If I was to slow my shooting down, I could go longer but that’s no fun.
I’ve had leading issues with all bulk packed cheap 22 rf ammo. The one that I’ve had little or no leading with is CCI mini mags.
Hot barrels promotes leading.

 

Leading problems with a .22lr is usually caused by a rough barrel. You can hand lap it yourself - an absolute PITA! Or you can fire lap the barrel, which is much easier to do! Both, however, take time to do right. Wheeler probably makes the best cheap (inexpensive) kit on the market right now but NECO is by far the best and most detailed. A hand lapping kit will cost you $130 and up. It all depends on what you want to get out of your gun and how much work you're willing to do to get it! A Wheeler kit will cost you $50 bucks or so and the NECO kits is maybe 10 bucks more. I may be a bit biased since I've been using a NECO kit for years, with nothing but excellent results.
Cheers,
crkckr

 

 

I’ve shot tons of that WWB .22LR ammo thru a Ruger Mark IV with zero issues aside from the rare dud round. I’ve always considered .22 versions of larger caliber semi’s unreliable, though I’m sure some members here are the exception.

 

I’ve shot tons of that WWB .22LR ammo thru a Ruger Mark IV with zero issues. I’ve always considered .22 versions of larger caliber semi’s unreliable, though I’m sure some members here are the exception.

He wasn’t testing solely for reliability, he was testing chiefly for BARREL LEADING.

 

I have a Wilson Combat .22lr conversion for a 1911. The only 1911 I had that it fit perfectly was an old Llama Officers Model, where it's lived since 1998, when I won the kit at a match. It runs mostly T'bolts and CCI Blazer... only because I couldn't find anything cheaper! The barrel is not in the least leaded, there's no donut and it actually shoots pretty good considering the cheap ammo & pistol! I have an unknown number of... bricks? Cases? Of ammo thru it and it just keeps trucking! Them Wilson folks build some good stuff!
Cheers,
crkckr

 

The only US made stuff I actively avoid are Thunderbolts.

 

If you watched the video, SIG specifically said, on their work order, that the Thunderbolts(Dunderdolts) were one of the brands that they tested.

 

I saw that, I generally avoid T-bolts in anything I have.

 

Screenshot from the video, showing the insane amount of lead buildup in the barrel, absolutely no excuse for that. Maybe Sig is using the same barrel supplier as Taurus does for their TX22. What a joke.

 

At this point, it's obviously not the ammo but poor quality control on the barrels Sig uses. Since the replacement barrel still stinks, Sig should be doubly ashamed. And now we know that Tools doesn't get special treatment just because he's a Youtuber.

 

I shot a few thousand rounds through my P322 with no traces of leading. After I disassembled it removing the thread protector for the first time the next range visit I had the same leading Tools and Targets had. I cleaned it all out and thought I may have over-torqued the thread protector. So I loosened it back up and torqued it less. I haven’t had leading since.

 

Update: Sig says that their engineering dept. is now working on the problem:

 

Last range session with my P322 I tried to induce leading by shooting 500rds of LRN Federal Automatch. The barrel was still very clean afterwards.

 

🔴UPDATE! Sig P322 Barrel Leading Issue🔴 It's BACK...And So Is The LEAD!🤬

 

Yep, he’s getting a refund.

 

I've never had lead issues with plated ammo.