[D20]

Just as the title says, what are the reasons to not own a suppressor?

I'm considering buying one now that wait times aren't too long, but I don't want to regret my purchase.

So, I'm seeking reasons to not buy one.

TIA

 

[mmcbeat]

i considered buying a suppressor but changed my mind. These days all my shooting is done at a couple of ranges, indoor and outdoor. Ear protection is needed both places, for both my shooting and others. A suppressor wouldn’t accomplish much.

 

[pgm74]

The only legitimate reasons not to get suppressors that I can come up with are to save money or because you hate cleaning guns. They are nice to have but plan to spend more than just for the suppressor and stamp. And you haven't seen filthy weapons until you've owned suppressors.

You will want to shoot subsonic loads.
You will want to put money into tuning gas systems, where you're able.
You will want to play around with different attachment options, especially if you are using one on different guns.
You will want Griffin EZ Lok setups on all your pistols you shoot suppressed.
You will quickly end up wanting dedicated cans, so plan to rinse and repeat.

Heck, just order 3 or 4 before the first one comes in!

 

[FTMFXR]

Because the government shouldn’t charge $200 to put a muffler on a gun and makers shouldn’t charge $600+ for the muffler.

 

[Bosch]

No.

 

[wrmiler]

If you possess Tax Stamp and a suppressor, can the feds just walk into your house without a warrant? Just curious.

Edit: If a suppressor is not enough to allow shooting indoors without hearing protection, I don't need/want one anyway.

 

[Bosch]

Because the government shouldn’t charge $200 to put a muffler on a gun and makers shouldn’t charge $600+ for the muffler.

Supply, meet demand.

If they ever drop of the NFA list the prices will drop because a anyone can make them and everyone will want a couple.

 

[Bosch]

If you possess Tax Stamp and a suppressor, can the feds just walk into your house without a warrant? Just curious.

Edit: If a suppressor is not enough to allow shooting indoors without hearing protection, I don't need/want one anyway.

Of course not.

 

[FullClip]

Don't get one expecting it to be like in the movies. Yeah, you can get wicked quiet depending on the combination of caliber, ammo and firearm used.

My HK USC sounds about like a nail gun with mild ammo. But it's a pretty large suppressor.

 

[FTMFXR]

Supply, meet demand.

Nonsense. With a decent CNC program they don’t have $100 buck in any of em, material and labor.

 

[illrooster132]

my 2 cents..... looks to me like another way to keep spending money..... I don't mind the cool factor , but when it wears off , ( for Me ) I will need another reason.... I don't have private land , so it would useless . ( for Me).

 

[Bosch]

Nonsense. With a decent CNC program they don’t have $100 buck in any of em, material and labor.

You forgot R&D, licensing, shop, tools,. infrastructure and the fact that it has to pay enough in a niche market to be worthwhile to do it all.


Oh and demand has meant that nothing has been in stock since the wait times shrank.

Supply can't keep up.

Even before, the popular cans had a wait time.

 

[FTMFXR]

You forgot R&D, licensing, shop, tools,. infrastructure and the fact that it has to pay enough in a niche market to be worthwhile to do it all.


Oh and demand has meant that nothing has been in stock since the wait times shrank.

Supply can't keep up.

Even before, the popular cans had a wait time.

Didn’t forget a thing. Spent many hours in the machine shop during the B-2 bomber manufacturing.
The makers are obviously scamming and I ain’t swallowing.

 

[Bosch]

Didn’t forget a thing. Spent many hours in the machine shop during the B-2 bomber manufacturing.
The makers are obviously scamming and I ain’t swallowing.

Opinion noted.

 

[Julius Seizure]

You could always go the “solvent trap” route and make one for peanuts. Time and materials aren’t really that expensive. Marketing and advertising (like so many things) drive up the cost but also create demand. All products aren’t created equally though, there’s some nice titanium cans with newer nicer designs that are worth a greater premium…that’s where you the consumer comes in.

The taxation is another thing entirely.

There’s no reason not to have one but it depends on your needs.

Plenty of reason to make a case for ownership and plenty of reasons not to get one. To broad of a brush to paint.

The government doesn’t get carte Blanche to kick your door in and start poking around because you own something on the NFA list. However, you’re on a “list”. Who really cares though. Same **** with a SBR

 

[Bosch]

You could always go the “solvent trap” route and make one for peanuts. Time and materials aren’t really that expensive. Marketing and advertising (like so many things) drive up the cost but also create demand. All products aren’t created equally though, there’s some nice titanium cans with newer nicer designs that are worth a greater premium…that’s where you the consumer comes in.

The taxation is another thing entirely.

There’s no reason not to have one but it depends on your needs.

Plenty of reason to make a case for ownership and plenty of reasons not to get one. To broad of a brush to paint.

The government doesn’t get carte Blanche to kick your door in and start poking around because you own something on the NFA list. However, you’re on a “list”. Who really cares though. Same **** with a SBR

Not anymore


ATF pretty much states that any material purchased to make a suppressor IS a suppressor. The days of solvent traps cans has passed unless I missed some major change.



..that and solvent trap cans were relegated to baffle stack designs for 99% of them.

Not even remotely cutting edge.

 

[D20]

You could always go the “solvent trap” route and make one for peanuts. Time and materials aren’t really that expensive. Marketing and advertising (like so many things) drive up the cost but also create demand. All products aren’t created equally though, there’s some nice titanium cans with newer nicer designs that are worth a greater premium…that’s where you the consumer comes in.

The taxation is another thing entirely.

There’s no reason not to have one but it depends on your needs.

Plenty of reason to make a case for ownership and plenty of reasons not to get one. To broad of a brush to paint.

The government doesn’t get carte Blanche to kick your door in and start poking around because you own something on the NFA list. However, you’re on a “list”. Who really cares though. Same **** with a SBR

It seems the days of traps are over unless the proper paperwork is done, and that's a whole other question.

 

[DrewBone]

You could always go the “solvent trap” route and make one for peanuts. Time and materials aren’t really that expensive. Marketing and advertising (like so many things) drive up the cost but also create demand. All products aren’t created equally though, there’s some nice titanium cans with newer nicer designs that are worth a greater premium…that’s where you the consumer comes in.

The taxation is another thing entirely.

There’s no reason not to have one but it depends on your needs.

Plenty of reason to make a case for ownership and plenty of reasons not to get one. To broad of a brush to paint.

The government doesn’t get carte Blanche to kick your door in and start poking around because you own something on the NFA list. However, you’re on a “list”. Who really cares though. Same **** with a SBR

The solvent trap/build your own suppressor route requires a bit more than just a Form 1 these days; BATFE wants to know that you have the means and necessary equipment (they want to see images of your metal lathe, mill, etc.) to manufacture the suppressor/parts from raw stock (you are after all the "manufacturer" of the suppressor) and not simply purchase aftermarket off-the-shelf non related parts to "assemble" into a suppressor.

If you've ever had a NICS check performed on yourself, you're known to the BATFE, so anything that comes after that, e.g., a C&R FFL, carry permit, suppressor, SBR, etc., doesn't place you on another list that's "higher up" on your uh-oh scale. I have a carry permit, a C&R license, a suppressor and SBR, and I have no worries about BATFE knocking my door down one day. If they ever show up for an inspection I'd be happy to show them my C&R bound book and NFA inventory.

Since my joints are destroying themselves I have issues with recoil, and to stay in the game I decided to get a rimfire suppressor; 'just what the Dr. ordered! I have enough land here to be able to enjoy shooting suppressed at my leisure (and without disturbing my neighbors or wildlife), which is a great advantage over those who need to travel to and pay to shoot at gun ranges.

I could see a person not wishing to own a suppressor for any number of possible reasons, and I'm fine with any and all of them, the same as I'm fine with anyone who doesn't wish to own a Glock, a S&W, a Taurus, a...

 

[Julius Seizure]

Not anymore


ATF pretty much states that any material purchased to make a suppressor IS a suppressor. The days of solvent traps cans has passed unless I missed some major change.



..that and solvent trap cans were relegated to baffle stack designs for 99% of them.

Not even remotely cutting edge.

The paperwork is definitely required. I meant form the overall cost of materials standpoint

 

[warbow150]

So, I'm seeking reasons to not buy one.

You don’t need one. You might want one (nothing wrong with that) but you don’t need one. If you needed a can you’d already have it.