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MurrayNevada

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According to this only the Walther PPS is free of striker drag among these three. Not so the Glock 43 or Sig P365. He gets to the primer comparisons at about the 3:30 point. He uses a bit of unnecessary sarcasm.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgl0iiMetqE
 
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Makes me feel pretty good about picking up the Walther PPS M2 yesterday. It's the least expensive of the 3 by a long shot too.
 
Makes me feel pretty good about picking up the Walther PPS M2 yesterday. It's the least expensive of the 3 by a long shot too.
Just pick up the check from my LGS for them selling my P365 on consignment today. I like to pocket carry and the Sig was just a little too heavy for that, and if I am going to holster carry a CCW why not get something a little larger and more reliable, so I am looking at the Walther as well.
 
I certainly care, my P365 has a born date of May 2018.
Waiting to hear something from Sig but nothing yet. I haven't fired mine yet.
 
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I certainly care, my P365 has a born date of May 2018.
Waiting to hear something from Sig but nothing yet. I haven't fired mine yet.
I've shot mine and like it much. Approx. 500 rounds and not a problem at all. Mine was manufactured 15 July 2018. Mine exhibits striker drag but nowhere near the aggressive marks I see on the earlier posts. I believe they changed the geometry of the striker after the March/April problems but I cannot nail it down. I examined my striker after each 150 rounds or so and see no sighs of a problem. I guess time will tell. I may install a Lightning Strike machined steel striker. The have a reduced price one now that is about $30.00 cheaper than their original and said to be just as good or better steel. Time will tell.
 
Some must care. It's been the subject of seemingly endless conversations here.
This is Glock Talk - "why my brass hits me in the head and it's not my grip that I learned on Youtube so it must be Glock's fault" is also the subject of endless conversations here.
 
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I have the PPS M2 and it has zero problems out of the box. No striker drag at all just a nice hole in the primer.I paid $318. in Dec. on Bud's. I see them now somewhere for $299. They have been as high as $469. Came with 3 mags.
 
I certainly care, my P365 has a born date of May 2018.
Waiting to hear something from Sig but nothing yet. I haven't fired mine yet.
Internet hysteria is simply amazing. Mix a few real world issues with a bunch of click-bait YouTube videos, Stir, and Voila, you have a pistol that represents the greatest threat to mankind since ebola.

BTW, I have no issue with Military Arms Channel reviews. That guy does a good job. But c'mon Harry's Holsters. CATASTROPHIC FAILURE!?!?!?!?. Your spring came loose, it didn't blow up in your hand for god's sake.

Mine also has a born on date of May 2018. And it has 1,200 rounds down the pipe without issue. Shoot and enjoy your pistol.
 
Makes me feel pretty good about picking up the Walther PPS M2 yesterday. It's the least expensive of the 3 by a long shot too.
I was an early PPS-M2 adopter at $437 for the LE version.
I think it's the best sub-compact single stack on the market.
Walther had the luxury of updating the PPS-M1 after it had been in service for 10 years.
The PPS-M2 was a home run for them but they don't market as hard as Glock and the others.
No muss, no fuss, that little thing just runs.

I have a G43 shooting buddy that can't keep his hands off of my PPS-M2.
Funny schitt.
 
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Bren & bac help me understand if my interpretation of the recent post cartoon is even close to accurate: It seems that when we talk here about Sig P365 striker drag it is an issue of great concern. However if we talk about G43 striker drag it is "Who Cares? & So What?" I'm old and my cognitive abilities are not what they once were but I am trying to learn what the "Who Cares? & So What?" means regarding this subject.
 
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Bren & bac help me understand if my interpretation of the recent post cartoon is even close to accurate: It seems that when we talk here about Sig P365 striker drag it is an issue of great concern. However if we talk about G43 striker drag it is "Who Cares? & So What?" I'm old and my cognitive abilities are not what they once were but I am trying to learn what the "Who Cares? & So What?" means regarding this subject.
Not directed at me, so sorry of I am insinuating myself in your conversation, but from my perspective, I think the only time striker drag matters is if you also have a broken firing pin as a result.

It sounds like SIG has addressed the broken pin issue and Glock never had one with the G43, so I think those with a lot of handgun experience tend to want to move on from the paralysis by analysis youtube train.

I have not yet gotten a SIG P365, but look forward to it. My G43 gets 400 rounds in a normal practice session, I consider it one of my most reliable handguns. I suspect once I do get that P365, with its later born on date, I will likely feel the same way. :)
 
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Agree. And I get what Bren & bac are saying. I too grow tired of the endless Youtube videos on topics most of us usually learn about from our own experiences.
 
Bren & bac help me understand if my interpretation of the recent post cartoon is even close to accurate: It seems that when we talk here about Sig P365 striker drag it is an issue of great concern. However if we talk about G43 striker drag it is "Who Cares? & So What?" I'm old and my cognitive abilities are not what they once were but I am trying to learn what the "Who Cares? & So What?" means regarding this subject.
No, they are both issues of "who cares" and "so what." It's a very popular subject among newbs on the internet. Not a problem in real life.

BTW, the "slot" shaped marks on the primer of Glock-fired brass and "Sig-fired brass are 2 different things. The Sig has a round striker tip, so long marks would actually be caused by the striker dragging. A Glock striker tip is actually flat and is supposed to make a slot-shaped mark on the primer, so if you are siagnosing your "primer drag" from the shape of the marks on the primers, it is probably only the Sig that is doing it:
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Round firing pin on left, Glock striker on right.

Do you have pictures of your primers?

Either way, I see no evidence that it is a problem. Internet hysteria.
 
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Good points Bren. Hadn't taken that into consideration.
 
Both verisions of the PPS are very nice but suffer slightly in the weight category in comparision, I went g43 with no regrets.
I had a couple G43’s. They were good pistols. Accurate too. My issue with every single stack I tried is the grip feels too small. This includes the P365. The PPS doesn’t feel that way to me. I get a much better grip on it. So I’ll sacrifice the couple ounces in added weight. I don’t notice it anyway.


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