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SouthLAnd Premiere Tonight...

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#1 ·
More typical police/Hollywood stuff. Guns with unlimited magzines, two pistols successfully take out three fully automatic rifles, and run of the mill bullet resistant vests being used to repel 7.62 rounds while draped over a car window.

Oh well. It was good while it lasted.
 
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#284 ·
You have to tell the networks that you bought the products advertised during the show and you let the advertisers know you saw them on the Southland slot and you would not have seen it otherwise and they owe their sales all to Southland. Then maybe....
 
#283 ·
I read an article that indicated the ratings overall were soft but it performed well against those shows in it's time slot so I suspect it will be renewed. Plus if you sign the online petition it can't hurt.
 
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#280 ·
Finally watched the last episode. Some subtle improvements. I'll be curious to see how the third season gets written.
 
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#273 ·
Rodrigo can do better than that tightly wound up pear shaped short hair man girl Lydia Adams, that's for sure. I can't imagine being with her is even half way enjoyable... never seen her in any moments where she is actually a fun person depicted on the show.
 
#272 ·
I can't remember the specifics without watching the episode again (and I've already deleted it off my DVR), but Lydia used some coercion when the murder suspect was in the jail by making some offers that he would get something in return for providing a confession. Just can't remember exactly how it was said. Definitely not something I would do on the street though. If someone wants to "Be honest with me and maybe help themselves out" then fine. But she went way too far IMO. Of course, I know it's just a TV show. :clown:
 
#271 ·
I guess... I do the, "don't mind me while I talk to myself" routine without talking to the peep directly.:whistling:
You can toe a fine line "not talking to them directly."

Nix v. Williams

Very interesting case. Had a professor that referred to it as the "Christian Burial Speech" case.

Can anybody tell the group, without looking it up, what exception to the exclusionary rule was borne out of the case?
Yes, thank you! My own reflections on what I think is the right thing, spoken out loud, in the presence of the turd, toes that line.

And the exception is of course... the Nix Rule!:tongueout:
 
#270 ·
You can toe a fine line "not talking to them directly."

Nix v. Williams

Very interesting case. Had a professor that referred to it as the "Christian Burial Speech" case.

Can anybody tell the group, without looking it up, what exception to the exclusionary rule was borne out of the case?
 
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#268 ·
... The one thing that was a bit intriguing was the Lydia kept talking to the father who killed his wife even after he asked for a lawyer. She kept at it to get him to confess. I'm no detective but when a perp asks for a lawyer, we stop talking to him, period. Maybe that's just us being conservative in our approach.
Our detectives learned that from NYPD Blue.

Your way is not wrong; it's following the very same constitution you took an oath to protect.

Some dicks are too caught up in the "end justifies the means" thing. Scary.
 
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#267 ·
I took it as Lydia was just getting him to plead guilty.
You mean you don't take the out back and "explain" things to them until they see it your way? Geez...I guess I've been doing it wrong all along. :whistling:

:supergrin:
I guess... I do the, "don't mind me while I talk to myself" routine without talking to the peep directly.:whistling:
 
#266 ·
I took it as Lydia was just getting him to plead guilty.
 
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#265 ·
The one thing that was a bit intriguing was the Lydia kept talking to the father who killed his wife even after he asked for a lawyer. She kept at it to get him to confess. I'm no detective but when a perp asks for a lawyer, we stop talking to him, period. Maybe that's just us being conservative in our approach.

You mean you don't take the out back and "explain" things to them until they see it your way? Geez...I guess I've been doing it wrong all along. :whistling:




:supergrin:
 
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#264 ·
Finally caught the last half of "Failure Drill" and watched all of "Graduation Day". Couldn't really see where the rookie was shot but it looked like it was on his body somewhere that the vest should have caught it.

The one thing that was a bit intriguing was the Lydia kept talking to the father who killed his wife even after he asked for a lawyer. She kept at it to get him to confess. I'm no detective but when a perp asks for a lawyer, we stop talking to him, period. Maybe that's just us being conservative in our approach.
 
#263 ·
Not screwed up at all. Actually it makes sense. Here's why detectives have stripes with diamonds on them. Back in the day, only Patrol had rank chevrons. Problem is, during major incidents such as the LA Riots, all personnel were called up and put out in uniform including detectives. Since detectives traditionally wore suits, they never had any rank insignia. But here you had senior detectives out there as slick-sleeves and indistinguishable from some junior Police Officer. That caused problems because some were very senior detectives that were officers in charge of their own units. So the Department gave Detectives their own rank insignia in the event that they uniformed up, you could tell immediately that they were detectives and what grade of detective they were. I guess it doesn't really matter in many departments because personnel slide back and forth between detective and patrol and keep their rank. Sergeants in Patrol become "Detective Sergeants," etc. Since that's not how it works on LAPD, Detective rank chevrons make a lot of sense.
I gotcha. Thanks for the explanation. Screwed up wasn't the best choice of words. Just...complicated. :cool:
 
#262 ·
A 3+1 works out of the Community Relations Office. A Senior Lead Officer rarely works a regular patrol shift, but they can. The augment patrol and work on long range problems rather than temporary fixes to long range problems.

For example, A45 responds to the same house, about the same loud party noise complaint night after night. Each night, the neighbors call, and A45 goes out and tells homeowners to shut the music off or there will be hell to pay if they have to come back.

If A45 was smart they would refer the problem to SLO 45. SLO 45 has all the time in the world to work a problem because they don't chase radio calls. SLO 45 will canvas the neighborhood and talk to various neighbors and ask around about the problem neighbors. He may start some sort of abatement process or even present a case to the City Attorney for disturbing the peace.

Basically, SLOs reach out to the community and spend time solving problems rather than just going out day after day and telling the same usual suspects to knock it off.
:thumbsup:

Thanks!
 
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#261 ·
Well he can be. A DII is an equivalent rank to a SGT I. DII is the first supervisory Detective Rank. If you were a Sergeant before making Detective II, you can go back and forth between Sergeant I and Detective II at will. However, if you were never a Sergeant, you cannot go from Detective II to Sergeant. What you can do is downgrade. Downgrades are rare but it happens. I had a friend who got fed up being a Sergeant and he basically asked to be downgraded to P3 and kicked back to a Patrol Car. They obliged him. The DII in the show probably felt like he wanted to go back to Patrol so he downgraded to his last Patrol rank and went back to Patrol as a P3. It happens.
Hey, since you're here, can you do me a favor and decipher Lethal Weapon for me?

I mean, those guys are "sergeants" but Riggs wears plainclothes and Murtaugh wears a suit. They do detective work but seem to be specialized in nothing and chase everything that comes their way.

Then they get busted to patrolman, while Riggs wears a ponytail. Then they get reinstated as sergeants, but then get promoted to Captain by "Chief's prerogative". Then they go out as Captains, dressed the same way, and still do detective work, instead of being division commanders or whatever it is that captains do.

Can you just tell me that they have zero accuracy and be done with it?

My S-2 buddy just about had a fit everytime he tried to explain Lethal Weapon's rank system. BTW, he did what you stated above, kind of. He was a P-3 who went to S-1, then voluntarily went down to a D-1 because he wanted detective experience but for some reason did not go D-2 (maybe there were no available slots?) but went back to S-1 field supervisor and then S-2.
 
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