[G29guy06]

I wonder how many on this forum has done any camping,
hunting, backpacking, fishing and cleaned and cooked over an open fire.

Had one on here insult me for stating I have shot over
six hundred yards with a 16'' AR15, under MOA.

It was obvious he had not shot very far to not believe
that gun and caliber would do it.

Many shoot only on an indoor range and don't know
what their guns will do, I have always been lucky to
have a place to shoot long range,
one range on the ranch is one and a eighth mile.
No I have not shot on that
one yet but have shot on the 1400 yard range.

Reading people’s posts is a great insight to what they do/ don’t know or have/ haven’t done...more so than anything they might say they’ve done.

And yes that kind of shooting can be done. I figure If I’m reaching out that far is prob try a better gun for the distance but an AR can do it.

 

[G29guy06]

Yeah and they were old men if they made it to 30, so... cool comparison.

I would take a hundred people with me so we could each carry one pound

The point was that I think you over looked is that if caveman could figure it out then an inexperienced man today w/ the knowledge we have and intellect can figure it out and probably sooner than later. A little trial and error but we got more to work with today than caveman did and they got it done.

 

[happie2shoot]

Know what the different ammo weighs,

https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/-/16-628973/

https://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=159381

https://www.floridaconcealedcarry.com/Forum/showthread.php?28540-Bulk-ammo-weight-chart

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/04/09/how-much-does-your-ammunition-weigh/

 

[Cambo]

Although I'm not a huge Beretta pistol fan, a 92 G variant along with my currently owned Beretta CX4 Carbine. Same mags, same ammo.

 

[kyjd75]

Glock 17 or 19, generic AR15, and Remington 870.

 

[Steel & Wood]

Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, here are my picks.....and, YES, I could carry all three:

 

[Goldstar225]

I'm in the "ain't going nowhere" crowd. With that said I'll play.

9mm with three mags, .22 LR rifle with 200 rounds, no shotgun. Water purification, energy bars, clothing for the weather conditions with poncho for rain/shelter, small tarp for ground sheet, light, simple cookware. Small fishing kit and snares. My goal would be a pack weighting no more than 25#. Keep out of sight.

 

[garya1961]

The way I see it this is all about weight. I will take my old single shot H&R shotgun, my Ruger Mark III 22 and my S&W sport II. I wouldn't carry a lot of shotgun shells (too heavy), a couple slugs, about three 00 buckshot and 10 high brass #6 shot. I would carry a couple hundred 22lrs and 4 loaded mags for the AR.

 

[ScotchWhisky]

Full size, full capacity 9mm handgun, AK underfolder, and I'll trade the shotgun for a 22 rifle.

 

[ScotchWhisky]

Duplicate post

 

[TheDreadnought]

I’d skip the shotgun.

Tavor X95
Beretta APX 9. Or Beretta 92A1

 

[cowboy1964]

Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, here are my picks.....and, YES, I could carry all three:

Along with everything else, 100 miles? Sure.

 

[cowboy1964]

That said, AR-15 in 5.56 mm, Glock 23 and if I had the room, my old reliable Mossberg 500A with an assortment of 00 buck, sluggers and even some game loads.

Cool, that should only weigh about 25 pounds or so.

 

[TheDreadnought]

Although I'm not a huge Beretta pistol fan, a 92 G variant along with my currently owned Beretta CX4 Carbine. Same mags, same ammo.

Yeah that might be a combo I would consider also. Fewer mags and less. ammo to carry.

I love all my Berettas though.

 

[G29guy06]

I'm in the "ain't going nowhere" crowd. With that said I'll play.

9mm with three mags, .22 LR rifle with 200 rounds, no shotgun. Water purification, energy bars, clothing for the weather conditions with poncho for rain/shelter, small tarp for ground sheet, light, simple cookware. Small fishing kit and snares. My goal would be a pack weighting no more than 25#. Keep out of sight.

Good list!

Have you considered an all weather blanket? I usually carry 2: 1 to sleep under and one for a blanket.

 

[Glockworks]

Now the catch is you need to be able to carry it all along with necessary survival essentials, food and water for at least 30 days. You will need to travel by foot 100+ miles over various terrains and face challenging weather and nature.
I would take a full size S&W M&P 9mm pistol. A Remington V3 TAC13. Finally an FN SCAR 20S.
My weight would primarily be weapons, ammo, water, food, wet/cold gear & survival essentials. My gear would total around 70-100lbs. I would pack minimal food and rely on nature or self preservation methods to eat.

I would really try to avoid masses in an APOCALYPTIC SITUATION or GOVERNMENT COLLAPSE . I would try to save people and help with caution in a NATURAL DISASTER or TERRORISM EVENT and I would align with the good guys if I was able to discern them were we attacked by a threat, foreign or domestic.

I'm bored and when I get bored I trim the fat and I don't like collecting a bunch of things I wouldn't use. So I always think of this situation and what I would need. Just the basics.

S&W Victory (.22LR Suppressed), Mossberg Shockwave (12 Gauge), Ruger 10/22 Intergrally Suppressed Barrel. Unlike in game scenarios where I shoot till I die, then I shoot again, I do not expect even with much more lethal gear than I chose, to live long if I stay and fight. My goal is the 100 miles in my preferred scenario, home, alive. In the ones I chose, I can be relatively quiet, ammo is VERY common, and the items are reasonably light.

PS, I live in a very hilly area. I might be carrying a skateboard with the thought of skating down the hills, but if I think it is too dangerous then nix that idea.

 

[NoStress]

Even when I could haul a 100lb pack around I wouldn't if I needed to go on a 100mile journey. When I was in that good shape I would have ran and walked and would stay ahead of anyone following. For a weapon I would choose a revolver powerful enough to use for protection against animals I would encounter and wouldn't take a shotgun or rifle. If I needed a gun to survive once I got where I was going then I would take a rifle and probably leave the pistol. I might choose an AR or even a .300 magnum bolt gun depending on where I was at. I might even choose a pump action 12 gauge. What ever I took it would probably be the only gun I took. And I would travel fast and light.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EJQQPKHtJw

 

[plp]

In that situation I wouldn't take the shotgun. I'd take a 5.56 AR (no cool brand name required) and a mid or full-size Glock in 9m, 40 S&W, 10mm or .45 ACP. If I was required to also carry a shotgun, I guess I'd go with a Remington 870 with a folding stock or a Tac-14.

BTW, guns aside, I don't think you can carry enough food and water for 30 days on your back. Even for 2 liters of water a day, assuming nice weather and no major exertion, that is 132 lbs. of water. Then there's the food...

Yeah, my thought as well, the math doesn't work out.

Now, if I have to hike 100 miles in a get back home situation, have my 30 pound pack that is already set up for that, sans water, weapons and ammo. A bivvy, 3 changes of clothes, 9 pairs of socks, 9 pairs of underwear, baby wipes, a roll of toilet paper, a basic first aid kit along with extra gauze and med tape, two ponchos. There is an empty 3 litre bladder in it, and keep two cases of water in the truck at all times. I also have 3 Lifestraws, as they are super light, take up little room, and would be major trade goods in a real SHTF situation.

I have a lot of stuff in the truck that would augment it depending on season, one must have would be snake chaps, are a life saver in heavy brush and briars. The big truck first aid kit also has a gallon ziplock bag in it, could just dump all the first aid stuff in it and without the Red Cross metal box, weighs about a pound.

For food, keep a lot of foil packs of tuna and 12 of the Coast Guard survival bars, both very light, can be eaten cold, and while not optimum, would keep me alive if nothing else was available. Water of course is the main concern, between the bottled stuff and the Lifestraws should at least give me a chance.

Now in a true get home situation, weapons are not nearly as big a deal as we like to think they are. I have two handguns, a Ruger SR22 with 200 rounds and a SCCY 9mm with 4 ten round mags and another 50 rounds in a box. I also have a Kel Tec Sub2k, but truth be told, would probably get left with the truck, too heavy to carry. I'd rather have the extra bottles of water for the weight displacement.

The objective is to travel fast, travel light, make a minimum footprint, and get my butt home.

 

[plp]

I can't carry 100 lbs of weight for 100 miles.

Pistol-G19
Rifle-Freedom FX-9 (uses Glock magazines)
No shotgun

I would take my water filter, reducing the amount of water I need to carry. The current GHB has what I would need to get home and weighs less than 40 lbs. No, I don't have enough ammo to fight a war, I have what I think it would take to get me home, so it should get me 100 miles.

Yet, it is the physical challenge of walking 100 miles. Even with going to the gym several times a week, it would be a struggle to make a hike like that. My preference would be to stay home.

Not really as bad as you might think. Figure 10 actual days, that is only 10 miles a day. I agree, screw the 100 pound pack, not gonna happen.

I've done 40 pounds a few times, in swamp and heavy brush, is my normal gear loadout each day for work so while I'm not normally hiking miles with it, I am used to that amount of weight. Properly balanced in a good backpack (have my grey man Kelty in the truck) with a good waist strap, could cover good ground each day.

Now in a true SHTF situation, I'm not bebopping happily down the side of the interstate, am sticking to fence lines and going along wooded areas where possible. While I can do 20 miles a day on level pavement, would be more realistic to figure on 10 a day, the goal is to make steady time, not exhaust yourself the first day or two.

 

[plp]

X2! ... packing water is for the uninitiated ... you take a water purifier kit!
I'd take the 12ga shotgun ... assorted #6 shot for food (birds, rabbit, etc.), #4 Buck for SD, Slugs for big game/hardened targets.

The last time I packed more than 100# was a 72-mile wilderness trek, two week trip in the Eastern Sierra Mountains. I was a 'young' 65 yrs old, pack consisted of 2 wks dehydrated food, clothing, fishing flyrods & flies, one-man raft w/ oars, first aide kit, solar shower, 1L Tequila & 8 Chrystal lite Lemon-Lime packs, tent, sleeping bag & pad, water purifier, single burner stove & 2L white gas, cook pots, compass & maps, headlamp & batteries, crampons, etc. ... total weight at start = 108#, came out with 58#.

Picture taken one week into the trek at Italy Pass 12,408' elevation looking toward Mount Humphries in the distance.
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You remind me of one of my uncles, lives in Wyoming, retired teacher, and a 70 pound pack is a regular thing for him. When you are in the physical condition for it and acclimated to the elevation, is nothing for him to pack out pieces of an elk. He does have horses and uses them when he can, but some of the terrain is not suitable for horseback.