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Looking at building a target 10/22 complete with a Magpul Hunter Stock (has adjustable LOP and comb), and some other upgrades (BX Trigger, auto bolt release, extended charging handle, scope and mounts, just the basic upgrades), the only thing I can't decide on is whether or not to get the bull barrel from Ruger. I've seen some very nice barrels from Volquarsten that cost more than the rifle, but I don't believe in spending more on a part than an entire firearm, at least one that's in working order.

I can shoot my regular 10/22 pretty accurately, about 3" group at 25 yards benched (personal limitations of the iron sights with my eyes as I wear glasses) and I can put 25 rounds through a quarter sized hole at 10 yards offhand standing.

Would I benefit from the increased accuracy from a bull barrel?

Are the barrels difficult to install? I've seen some youtube videos of them being installed and it seems pretty easy to do, the only thing I see an issue with is lining up the extractor claw with the groove on the barrel.

Thanks.
 
I get about 3/8th inch at 50 yards with the scoped 10/22 wiht upgraded bull barrel and improved trigger group...

So you may be able to do lots better, depending on your ammo choice and budget.

I'm thinking that others will be along shortly with very similar results!

Hope that helps you out!
 
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I get about 3/8th inch at 50 yards with the scoped 10/22 wiht upgraded bull barrel and improved trigger group...

So you may be able to do lots better, depending on your ammo choice and budget.

I'm thinking that others will be along shortly with very similar results!

Hope that helps you out!
What trigger do you have in it? I think the 3" group at 25 yards are simply a limitation of the iron sights in combination with my eyes. I'm looking at the BX trigger, as it's a nice, relatively inexpensive drop in upgrade.

Heavy, bull barrel sounds like the way to go.
 
Instead of another barrel I would take the same money and invest it in good mounts and a scope. If you have a really bad barrel you may shrink your groups dramatically by changing barrels but the limiting factor is the iron sights and your eyes. I think that you will be very pleasantly surprised at how well the gun performs with a scope. If it still won't group the way you think it should, then look into getting another barrel.
 
Did you buy the one with the heavy barrel or install it yourself?
Installed it myself. A Butler Creek. And had to have a new stock to go with it, obviously.

Left the same scope on it and didn't change the trigger. Tried various target ammos to see what the gun liked best. Was shooting quarters off the fence at 50 yards on day 1. Too much fun. A better scope and trigger and I think I might be able to half the groups again but when you're going from 3-4 inches down to 1 inch...I've just left it.
 
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Instead of another barrel I would take the same money and invest it in good mounts and a scope. If you have a really bad barrel you may shrink your groups dramatically by changing barrels but the limiting factor is the iron sights and your eyes. I think that you will be very pleasantly surprised at how well the gun performs with a scope. If it still won't group the way you think it should, then look into getting another barrel.
I've written out a list of upgrades on a word document, with prices and everything, including the order of the parts I plan to upgrade. At the bottom of that list is the bull barrel after the magpul hunter stock, which can accommodate the standard or bull barrels. I will have a while to decide if the gun is accurate enough for me with all of the modifications I plan to make, and if not, I'll add the match grade bull barrel. But yes, that is something to consider, if the gun is accurate enough for my purposes, then wouldn't really need the bull barrel, although my thinking is it wouldn't hurt.

Installed it myself. A Butler Creek. And had to have a new stock to go with it, obviously.

Left the same scope on it and didn't change the trigger. Tried various target ammos to see what the gun liked best. Was shooting quarters off the fence at 50 yards on day 1. Too much fun. A better scope and trigger and I think I might be able to half the groups again but when you're going from 3-4 inches down to 1 inch...I've just left it.
How hard is it to install the barrel? From what I've seen you just have to remove the two locking block screws and pull out the old, re-insert the new and re-torque the locking block screws. How would I line up the extractor?
 
How hard is it to install the barrel? From what I've seen you just have to remove the two locking block screws and pull out the old, re-insert the new and re-torque the locking block screws. How would I line up the extractor?
It's been awhile but It was the two screws and that was it. I don't recall having to line anything up but, like I said, it's been awhile.
 
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It's been awhile but It was the two screws and that was it. I don't recall having to line anything up but, like I said, it's been awhile.
I watched a video earlier of IV8888 putting together a custom 10/22 and it seems that the locking V block lines up the barrel to the receiver and in turn, the extractor so there's no real way to screw it up.
 
I'm thinking it was a Volquartzen kit, the barrel was not exotic but was know to be a decent barrel, and I also restocked it. Wanted to use it as a new person "feel good" experience, that's why the stock colors are bright... Not intimidating, not "tactical" but "Oh, That's Different"... :)


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Damm sure I won't lose it in the Forest!!!

Hope that helps!
 
undercover500 Decide what you want to do with your rifle . If it going to be a walking hunter then go short and light as with a composite barrel or a mid weight/ contoured like from clark or FJ Fedderson

.22lr are so ammo sensitive to even a lot number change a rifle can be a 1" 50 yards rifle or a .300 " with only a lot number change and when trying different ammo be sure to shoot 20 rounds before shooting for group . Different lube used on brand A will effect brand B until a few rounds have been fired .

I have both a 10lb 20" heavy kidd barreled received pinned at the rear and partly bedded around the receiver and first 3" of barrel in a boyds stock like shown above but painted black with a SS barrel and polished reciever . Its a range/fun rifle with jard trigger assembly tuned to 12oz and a 30mm tube 6-25x44 mill dit scope . Watch those jard triggers . They can go full auto if you get crazy with tuning it !! Buy what you want for pull weight and leave it alone My wifes has a Hogue stock and a early run Fedderson 1022 mid weight barrel , 50 dollar 2.5lb lite pull hammer sear kit and wears a 4-14 scope Mueller scope . Both with there choice of 4 to 7 dollar a box ammo will shoot one hole 25 yards groups from a rest BUT the 10lbs easier to do that with and both can shoot sub moa groups with different ammo in the 12 to 15 dollar a box range . Ammo used runs from 4.10 a box fed 711b to rws r-50 and center-x and ammo may be a different brand as yardage changes for best result . Crazy game , these .22lrs are .

The 10/22 game has changed a lot since I built our 10/22's up from a couple old beaters

EABCO is a real good place to buy from too as they sell many different brands now and at good prices .

https://www.eabco.com/102204.html

The said part of 10/22's is I have also stock savage BV with only some trigger tuning to it that's a better shooter for waaay less money invested .
 
Discussion starter · #15 ·
Thanks all for the replies. I've been on a real target gun kick lately, I want to upgrade my 10/22 and get another SW22 Victory and make it sort of a pistol/rifle combo that I can take to the range and blast targets with.
 
I'll
I watched a video earlier of IV8888 putting together a custom 10/22 and it seems that the locking V block lines up the barrel to the receiver and in turn, the extractor so there's no real way to screw it up.
I'll take that bet. I've never had any problems screwing all manner of things up.
 
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