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Not long ago during its intro, the 2.0 Compact was dubbed the G-19 killer. Being a curious SOB I decided to try one out so I could compare it to my G-19. I wanted to hate it because of all the anti-Glock BS. But, after shooting it for a week or so I was convinced, this ain't a bad gun at all, even the supposed improved trigger. Anyway, I felt OK about the 2.0 but decided to sell it none the less.

Fast forward, I was kicking myself a few days later for dumping it. In retrospect, the 2.0 is a really good firearm with a lot of good qualities. Fit, finish, good grip angle, smooth design, good accuracy, steel reinforced poly frame, what's not to like! Yes, I'm a Sig/Glock fanboy, but the M&P 2.0 deserves a spot on the podium. I just bought another one from Bud's for a little over $400 buck and happy I did!
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If I still had my badge and could buy off-roster guns here in CA, I'd have bought a 2.0 Compact. I rather liked the one I tried on the range (belonging to another instructor), and was pleasantly surprised how the slight shortening of the slide and grip frame height, from the standard M&P 9, resulted in a nicely balanced package.

I've never been a "capacity" junkie, but the 2.0 Compact seemed an even better duty weapon than the new production M&P 40 I carried before I finally fully retired (meaning resigning from my post-retirement reserve position). I can see why my former agency has been making more orders for the new 2.0 Compact 9 instead of the previously ordered M&P 9's, .40's & .45's. Nice sized duty weapon.

FWIW, the new 2.0 "action" offered a nice contrast to the original trigger bar/sear action, too. The one I tried was a tack-driver. Handy.

Even if I were to buy one of them as a used firearm in CA (from one of the inevitable gun nut cops who are always buying new guns and quickly tiring of them), I'd still have to get 10rd mags, being retired. That being the case, I'm still quite satisfied keeping and using the 3913 & 3913TSW compact S&W's I already own, which use 8rd mags and are slightly smaller and slimmer.

The 2.0 Compact clearly seems like another home run for S&W, though. I'm sure the 3.6" version is going to help them continue to set sales records, too. If I were still working and able to buy discount guns (and could still work overtime to let me afford them ;) ), I'd be really tempted to pick one or more up, even though I'm not a "hi-cap" kind of guy. :)
 
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A friend of mine slowly got his 19 exactly how he wanted over a couple years. Cerakoted, sights, extended controls, talon grip, multiple holster setups, you know hot it goes. He handled a 2.0 compact and left the shop knowing he would sell the Glock. The next day, it was gone to a friend and he had a new 2.0.

After handling it, I can't say I blame him. But, I wouldn't get rid of my Glock to get it.
 
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If you came back to it, you know it's right.

I do love the Glock brand, but part of me thinks that if the M&P line came out first, Glock would be a fringe gun.

That said, that's not fair to Glock, as they pioneered the design to begin with.

I love my Shield, and carry it a lot, but I do consider Glock to be "America's Handgun"
 
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I'm not sure why the 2.0 doesnt seem to have a large loyal following like most other pistols. It is great.

I'm also not sure how SW can sell these at such a lower price than most of the competition.

I'll be picking up a full size soon. Especially if I cant get my gen 4 19 to stop the dang btf and stovepipes after installing new parts.:steamed:
 
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VoodooMountain said:
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I'm also not sure how SW can sell these at such a lower price than most of the competition.
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Or, perhaps ask why other companies aren't willing to sell their plastic lines at such reasonable prices? ;)

S&W has been enjoying increased sales for the last 3 fiscal years, and 2017's report shows:

Smith & Wesson remained the leader in the U.S. consumer market for handguns in fiscal 2017
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Record fiscal 2017 net sales of $903.2 million represented an increase
of 24.9% over fiscal 2016 net sales. Net sales for our Firearms segment
increased by 18.5% over the prior fiscal year to $773.0 million
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Sales of our handguns accounted for $556.6 million, or 61.6%, of our total net sales for the fiscal year ended April 30, 2017 ...
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Also, the company shipped its two millionth Shield in 2017, and has continued to enjoy strong sales of the Shield line.

Basically, they can easily afford to price their plastic line of pistol both competitively and reasonably (for the consumer).

Since 2015 they've owned the plastic manufacturer who has made many of the plastic parts for a long time, including their plastic pistol frames.

They've added in-house manufacturing capability for a number of things needed for their various firearms lines, reducing having to rely on outside vendors (but they've also become the "vendor" for some parts and services for other gun companies, from time to time).
 
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I've seen similar peening on a couple of different make/models of pistols. One guy for one of the companies described it as a form of self-limiting wear, similar to flame-cutting in the top straps of magnum revolvers. In one make of pistol I was even shown by one armorer instructor how to use a (red) stone to create it in one model.

While it's obviously not possible to know what's happening with your gun, you could email your concern to S&W customer service, including the nicely large & clear picture, and ask if they feel their techs ought to examine your gun.

FWIW, in some metal-frame pistols that use rounded barrel hoods (versus the wide, flat ones of many current pistols, with simpler machining cuts and angles), such wear isn't quite as noticeable, as it's spread around the curve of the front of the hood (and under the rear edge of the slide's port).
 
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My first time with it this afternoon. Indoor range at around 10 yards. Used 115-grain Winchester FMJ on body shots. 124 grain Sig FMJ on headshots. Sigs win by a mile. Very controllable with 124 grain. I guess I'm happy. The 2.0 is fun to shoot but there is a lot of travel in the trigger.
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9mmaddict said:
I dumped my g19.4 for the 2.0 compact and couldn't be happier. The 2.0 compact is every bit as a good as the g19 maybe better, unless your not happy with a gun that doesn't need modding.. then the 2.0 compact is not for you.
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My MP 2.0 Compact needed new sights and a heavier trigger return spring, but that is a whole lot less than I did to my Gen4 G19.

Regards,
Happyguy :)
 
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The 2.0 and G-19 have a lot in common. Pretty much the same size and weight. I prefer the Glock trigger, but I can get used to the 2.0 in time. Long travel pull with a very short reset. The 2.0 is $100 plus less than the Glock. Other than that I call it a draw. Two really nice compact pistols.
 
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