[1canvas]

being that you just can't shoot someone for punching you or something like that i wonder why retention holsters are not more popular for ccw.
it just seems that would be the way to go for physical confrontations that don't justify the use of a gun but you have to defend yourself. any thoughts anyone?

 

[MaximaDrvr]

A good holster will generally hold a weapon securely enough that a mild tussle will not dislodge it. Also, when carrying, a physical altercation is not likely to be gotten into for most.

 

[txinvestigator]

If I carry OWB or any method other in IWB I always carry at least a level 1 holster.

definitions of levels

0 No retention. Open top or "friction" only
1 At least one safety device to defeat. Usually a snap, button or lever
2. two safety devices to defeat, such as a snap and cant or twist of the weapon, or two devices to push or pull
3 three safety devices, such as the safariland 070. There are two snaps and the weapon must be canted properly.

When I carry a weapon openly I carry least a level 2.

 

[MaximaDrvr]

^ A lot of companies advertise level 1 as adjustable friction retention, usually by a screw tightening.

 

[txinvestigator]

^ A lot of companies advertise level 1 as adjustable friction retention, usually by a screw tightening.

I know of exactly one, Blackhawk. That is against the standing convention of other holster makers. Unfortunately the NIJ does not have a standard for retention numbers as they do ballistic protection for vests.

BH couild call those friction holsters level 3, but that does not make them so.

 

[MaximaDrvr]

I have in my possession a leather holster with a screw and rubber bushing that is tightened to increase retention. It was sold as level 1.

 

[Lior]

1. Retention holsters often become be bulky and heavy, which does not lend itself to concealment. My usual retention holster is a Safariland 6070, which requires a greatcoat to conceal, if at all.
2. Most CCWers do not anticipate getting involved in punch-ups. It is easier to avoid getting walloped than getting shot at, given a determined suspect in either scenario.

 

[GorillaGlock21]

I would be interested in an IWB leather holster with a retention strap/snap. Anyone know of one thats on the market?

 

[HerrGlock]

Retention holsters tend to be more useful for open carry than for concealed carry. If you can dislodge your gun just by a little rough and tumble, you might want to consider another holster.

 

[HerrGlock]

I would be interested in an IWB leather holster with a retention strap/snap. Anyone know of one thats on the market?

You mean something like this?
http://www.tacticalpantsusa.com/gawainpaho.html

http://www.concealco.com/miva/merch.../merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ACL&Product_Code=IWBT&Category_Code=051IWB

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=511964

 

[golls17]

I'm bringing this thread back to life...

Because I am so used to open carrying, I just am used to an active retention (I usually carry in a Blackhawk CQC). I have started toying around with CC for around the house, and use an Uncle Mike's Sidekick. It came with a thumb snap, but I got rid of that and now it's just in the holster. It's IWB, but I loop the belt on the outside of the holster. It seems to work well enough. Tested it today by wrestling with the dog (without one in the chamber). Seemed to hold up just by the friction of the belt.

It that the general consensus for OWB CCing? The friction of the belt over the holster or the friction of the holster is enough to do the trick?

 

[MaximaDrvr]

I OWB CC with a Don Hume 721 OT. It is still well held, and probably requires 15lbs to pull from the holster.

 

[beforeobamabans]

Civvys should wear open top holsters whether wearing IWB or OWB. No thumb breaks or other interference devices for civilians.