[ithaca_deerslayer]

Not sure what loads a Glock 30 can handle.

If I were to someday, in the far off future, a long time from now, after all bills are paid, and after many months of enjoying the guns I already have, buy a Glock 30SF, what is the most powerful factory ammo to shoot in it stock?

Power as in for hunting deer at close range, or stopping a black bear, or dropping 2 legged varmits high on crackmethacid? The ultimate in pocket power, next to the 10mm and revolver magnums, that is

You know I'd only end up shooting paper at 25 yards with it. But I might on occassion dispatch a wounded deer poorly shot by kinfolk.

Could strictly be a caliber question, except it relates to a specific gun, and no comparison to those other calibers. I have 357mag and 44mag revolvers. But looking for a powerful gun not much bigger than my 26, in Glock. 45 is more available than 10, and I don't handload.

Wondering if the Glock 30 would make a good woods and concealed carry gun. Had also thought about the Glock 23 in 40. And might as well consider the Glock 29 in 10mm. But really more interested in .45ACP at the moment.

 

[winglock]

I've never shot a deer with my G30's but have shot several with a G21. Used Hydra Shoks. I've actually taken 1 deer with a G22 and was not under gunned but I'm a 45 fan. I wounded a monster buck several years ago with a G20 but it jumped a fence into another property and after trailing it for a half mile ,without permission to hunt beyond right to retrieve I decided to turn back. It in fact seemed to lose less blood as we tracked it so felt I didn't get a good enough hit. Don't take to long of a shot and you will be ok with a G30 if your state will allow it. Here we have to have a minimum of a 4 inch bbl.

 

[Bachi]

get a 460rowland conversion barrel for the glock 30 and you can shoot either 45acp+p , 45super or 460 rowland ( bear stopping power)

 

[M 7]

Not sure what loads a Glock 30 can handle.

Just about anything that you can load in it.

If I were to someday, in the far off future, a long time from now, after all bills are paid, and after many months of enjoying the guns I already have, buy a Glock 30SF, what is the most powerful factory ammo to shoot in it stock?

Power as in for hunting deer at close range, or stopping a black bear, or dropping 2 legged varmits high on crackmethacid? The ultimate in pocket power, next to the 10mm and revolver magnums, that is

You know I'd only end up shooting paper at 25 yards with it. But I might on occassion dispatch a wounded deer poorly shot by kinfolk.

Could strictly be a caliber question, except it relates to a specific gun, and no comparison to those other calibers. I have 357mag and 44mag revolvers. But looking for a powerful gun not much bigger than my 26, in Glock. 45 is more available than 10, and I don't handload.

Wondering if the Glock 30 would make a good woods and concealed carry gun. Had also thought about the Glock 23 in 40. And might as well consider the Glock 29 in 10mm. But really more interested in .45ACP at the moment.

Because of the broad scope of applications you envision (hunting deer, dispatching wounded deer, stopping black bear, and human threats), the best round to use would be a JHP that offers both decent expansion and deep penetration- the Hornady .45 ACP 230 gr. XTP +P JHP (925fps) being the best example that I can think of. Hornady states that the XTP is designed to expand to an average of 1.5x caliber and retain almost all of its weight.

Putting this information into the Schwartz bullet penetration model in order to predict how the Hornady .45 ACP 230 gr. XTP +P JHP will behave in soft tissue, a 230 gr JHP at 900fps that expands to 0.675" (1.5x caliber) will penetrate to depth of 13.97 inches and permanently crush 2.46 ounces of soft tissue (unless heavy bone is struck).

Or you could just use a .45 230 gr. FMJRN @ 850fps- that'd give you about 25.4 inches of penetration and permanently crush about 1.7 ounces of soft tissue.

 

[ithaca_deerslayer]

I've never shot a deer with my G30's but have shot several with a G21. Used Hydra Shoks. I've actually taken 1 deer with a G22 and was not under gunned but I'm a 45 fan. I wounded a monster buck several years ago with a G20 but it jumped a fence into another property and after trailing it for a half mile ,without permission to hunt beyond right to retrieve I decided to turn back. It in fact seemed to lose less blood as we tracked it so felt I didn't get a good enough hit. Don't take to long of a shot and you will be ok with a G30 if your state will allow it. Here we have to have a minimum of a 4 inch bbl.

I assume those were 230 grain? Do the penetrate through both sides of the deer?

Based on what I've been reading, penetration is the "weakness" of the .45 but I don't know how much of that is fact or fiction in these real life hunting scenarios.

 

[Bruce M]

If you got 25.4 inches of penetration in a deer how much penetration would you get in a black bear? Are bear tissue and deer tissue the same? What about different tissues in the same animal?

 

[ithaca_deerslayer]

Just about anything that you can load in it.



Because of the broad scope of applications you envision (hunting deer, dispatching wounded deer, stopping black bear, and human threats), the best round to use would be a JHP that offers both decent expansion and deep penetration- the Hornady .45 ACP 230 gr. XTP +P JHP (925fps) being the best example that I can think of. Hornady states that the XTP is designed to expand to an average of 1.5x caliber and retain almost all of its weight.

Putting this information into the Schwartz bullet penetration model in order to predict how the Hornady .45 ACP 230 gr. XTP +P JHP will behave in soft tissue, a 230 gr JHP at 900fps that expands to 0.675" (1.5x caliber) will penetrate to depth of 13.97 inches and permanently crush 2.46 ounces of soft tissue (unless heavy bone is struck).

Or you could just use a .45 230 gr. FMJRN @ 850fps- that'd give you about 25.4 inches of penetration and permanently crush about 1.7 ounces of soft tissue.

So, the G30 is ok with +P ammo?

I do keep seeing that XTP bullet mentioned, as I scan for info.

 

[dango]

Not too long ago , one GT,r contacted Glock about +P ammo.
He posted the results and the word was +P's are A-OK..!

 

[G26S239]

So, the G30 is ok with +P ammo?

I do keep seeing that XTP bullet mentioned, as I scan for info.

Sure it is. I put 19# Wolf springs on mine and shot 45 Super through it. No problems.

 

[MedicineBow]

I have chronographed Buffalo Bore +P 255 grain hard cast flat nose at a 5 shot average of 923 fps out of my 30SF. (Buffalo Bore advertises this at 925 fps out of a 5 inch barrel.) The ME may look low on paper but the momentum and Taylor KO numbers look pretty good, and I have carried that load in the woods as a defensive round against critters but not as a hunting round. The rest of the time it is loaded with 230 grain Gold Dots. The gun is a good "all around" package.

 

[SDGlock23]

In .45 ACP, probably the most powerful are going to be offered by Buffalo Bore and Underwoods ammo. For factory ammo, I'd look into the 230gr +P Hornady XTP, 230gr +P Winchester Ranger or 230gr +P Federal HST. I don't anticipate the .45 ACP having trouble with deer sized game, deer aren't notoriously hard to kill animals and a 230gr bullet through the vitals will equal a dead deer.

Then there is the .45 Super, it's definitely more potent. I use an aftermarket barrel to shoot it, but others claim to have shot it from stock barrels. Same external dimensions as the .45 ACP, just stronger brass loaded to higher pressure.

Lastly you have the 460 Rowland conversion, which is a little more potent than the .45 Super, but you will have to change out the barrel and put a comp on it to shoot it.

 

[M 7]

So, the G30 is ok with +P ammo?

Yes, it is.

 

[M 7]

If you got 25.4 inches of penetration in a deer how much penetration would you get in a black bear? Are bear tissue and deer tissue the same?

Soft tissue (muscle and visceral organs like the heart, lungs liver, stomach, kidneys, intestine, etc) differ little in terms of their respective physical properties (strength, elasticity, density) among these species so the result is the same. For that reason, the predicted performance in soft tissue amongst different species can be expected to be equivalent.

What about different tissues in the same animal?

If you'll take the time to read my first post carefully, you'll see that I made mention of the fact bone will influence the outcome.

 

[Snapper2]

In my non sf g30 the slide and frame has held up to a lot. In aftermarket barrels I've shot 45super,10mm,and 400 cor bon. I guess 40super is even possible. When I put the stock barrel back in its still as accurate as ever.

 

[AK47Man]

Hornady +P 185gr 45acp "Critical Duty" and Winchester Ranger +P 230gr T-series are the two I use..Also have +P Federal 230gr HST..Another excellent round...

 

[ithaca_deerslayer]

I have chronographed Buffalo Bore +P 255 grain hard cast flat nose at a 5 shot average of 923 fps out of my 30SF. (Buffalo Bore advertises this at 925 fps out of a 5 inch barrel.) The ME may look low on paper but the momentum and Taylor KO numbers look pretty good, and I have carried that load in the woods as a defensive round against critters but not as a hunting round. The rest of the time it is loaded with 230 grain Gold Dots. The gun is a good "all around" package.

Do you use the stock barrel? Looks like good numbers

 

[MedicineBow]

That was with the stock barrel. The ES was 25 and the SD was 12. I also have a KKM barrel for the same gun, and I shot 5 through that barrel as well. The 5 shot average was 927 fps with an ES of 11 and a SD of 4! The chronograph on both was an Oehler 35 with the screens about 15 feet from the muzzle.

 

[barth]

A Glock G30 is definitely +P rated.
I prefer Winchester Ranger T-Series 230 gr +P in my HK45C.
It's rated at 990 fps and 501 E from a 5" barrel.
And expansion tends to be outstanding.
I've read of folks getting ~940 fps from a G30.

 

[PattonT]

FWIW I have had a terrible experience with Buffalo Bore ammo. Could barely keep it on the paper, and no it wasn't the recoil. If get Buffalo Bore test it extensively.

 

[G26S239]

A Glock G30 is definitely +P rated.
I prefer Winchester Ranger T-Series 230 gr +P in my HK45C.
It's rated at 990 fps and 501 E from a 5" barrel.
And expansion tends to be outstanding.
I've read of folks getting ~940 fps from a G30.

I load my USP45c with that ^^^ load. I used to use in my G30 when I had it.