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So given all the hype concerning synthetic motor oils being used for lube on firearms, I decided to give it a try.

I am an avid user of Ballistol, but I was looking for something of a higher viscosity the other day, and was staring at all the different brands in the "gun lube" section, and finally said screw it, and just picked up a quart of Mobil 1 10w30.

I filled on of my precision oiler bottles and applied to one of my Glocks for a test run, and I must admit I have never felt a Glock cycle so smooth. I mean just simply racking the slide tells you immediately that the Mobil 1 is an outstanding lube. The slide feels like glass as its cycled by hand.

It's been a few days since the application of the Mobil 1 , and I am noticing that it has a tendency to creep out and ride up the outside of the slide and down on the polymer. Mind you that I only applied one drop from a precision oiler to each rail, so I did not "over oil" by no means.

I am assuming that the primary composition of full synthetic motor oils is compromised of PAO. Which is a poly based oil, and should be completely safe for firearm polymers. But I guess I am looking for reassurance on this issue.

I have never worried about Ballistol creeping onto the polymer or any mineral based oils, but what about synthetic motor oils??

I must admit I am impressed if the lubing characteristics of the Mobil 1 thus far. And it appears to "stay put" other than the noticable creeping I am experiencing.
 
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Thousands of people use Mobil 1 as their only gun lube. I have never heard of any issues doing this.You are probably figuring out you can use even much less than you are even though you think it is only one drop.
Yea, I'm thinking just a nano drop on each frame rail would suffice. Because once it's spread through the slide rails, it's there , and should remain there for a good amount of time and use.
 
The only reason to use motor oil is to avoid spending money on buying gun dedicated products, thus being charged more than necessary, and making do with what is on hand-- like motor oil. Mobil 1 is not different than any other motor oil product at the level of pistol lube. I use motor oil, but whatever is left over from oil changes-- I've not noticed a difference in using just Mobile 1 vs the any other. The leftover collections after motor oil changes will probably last me a lifetime of gun ownership. So far, I've not bought any "gun" lube for the past 25 years and have not noticed issues with frame staining from lube.

If you are only using a "drop", then stick with the Ballistol until it is used up-- even a small amount will last you years. If you think that the Mobile 1 has make such a dramatic improvement in function then that is a sad testimony towards the Ballistol. Some of the thicker stuff, or greases, won't creep.
 
Gun lube is like a religion: every single poster on this GT board will have an opinion on how and what works best. Very few will say "I used product X and my gun failed".
That's the very reason I use "product Y" !!! Product X was ill conceived and made with only profit in mind, it was never made with the shooters needs in mind. People that love "X" are just buying a name.
 
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If you are only using a "drop", then stick with the Ballistol until it is used up-- even a small amount will last you years. If you think that the Mobile 1 has make such a dramatic improvement in function then that is a sad testimony towards the Ballistol. Some of the thicker stuff, or greases, won't creep.

I'm not knocking Ballistol by any means. If I had to choose only one product then I wouldn't even blink at grabbing my can of Ballistol. I was just looking for something a bit thicker. I just noticed the slide feels a bit slicker now with the Mobil 1 , that's all. This is just due to the viscosity difference. Ballistol is my number one for general cleaning and wipe downs. If Ballistol is in your bore and covering your firearm , then your safe from corrosion, in my experience any way.

I just needed a good viscous lube in addition. Or just wanted one to be honest, not really needed. :)
 
That's the very reason I use "product Y" !!! Product X was ill conceived and made with only profit in mind, it was never made with the shooters needs in mind. People that love "X" are just buying a name.[/QUOTE

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I always enjoy a discussion on the merits of using a detergent based motor oil as gun lubricant and rust preventative. I started brewing Ed's Red in the late 1970's moved on to synthetic motor oils when they became the new craze in the every 1980's. Both worked ok . They were a bit messy to deal with. Plus with the true amount of gun oil we'll use in our shooting careers the cash savings would be calculated in tens of dollars not in hundreds of dollars.

So I don't see the gain in using these alternatives to protect my entire 50 gun collection.

Each to his own . These are just my thoughts. John
 
Your thinking about PAO based synthetics being safe for polymers is correct.

I still have bottles of lubes like CLP, Tetra and others that were giveaways to anybody who placed in pistol events. Seems like if you could centerpunch even some of your targets they chucked bottles of lube at you. :2gun:

With that being said, I think a high quality synthetic motor oil is better lube than any pistol requires and unless you desire non-toxic qualities buying "gun lube" is like lighting money on fire.
 
I don't use either as a lubricant, but I would hope your Glock is as tough as the inside of a plastic oil bottle. :dunno:
 
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You said "slicker" which in the super micro "difference" that these "lubes" make, it means 'better".

Ultimately, the difference is so small that you have to measure it with lab equipment.

At the level of pistol or handgun lube, any lubricant will do. If you trust your oil to lube your car engine (which sits and operates in much harsher conditions- heat, moisture, humidity included- than your handgun will ever see) then it makes no logical sense to have to use anything else.

I'm not knocking Ballistol by any means. If I had to choose only one product then I wouldn't even blink at grabbing my can of Ballistol. I was just looking for something a bit thicker. I just noticed the slide feels a bit slicker now with the Mobil 1 , that's all. This is just due to the viscosity difference. Ballistol is my number one for general cleaning and wipe downs. If Ballistol is in your bore and covering your firearm , then your safe from corrosion, in my experience any way.

I just needed a good viscous lube in addition. Or just wanted one to be honest, not really needed. :)
 
I was in a LGS checking out some guns and was talking to the owner about Glocks. He said he was a Certified Glock Armorer and that people tend to over lube their Glocks. He said he never cleaned or lubed his guns. He showed me his carry gun he had on at the time. It was a Gen2 G19 and he claimed it had over 27k rounds through it. He broke it down and showed me 4 places on the gun and said "if you are really anal about lubing your Glocks, then put a half a drop of oil right here". He then pointed out the places. I didn't ask how you metered a "half a drop of oil".
 
Not going to hurt the polymer. Gas cans are plastic, now, and they last for years. Glock polymer is better than a Tupperware gas can, by far.

Your oil will always creep out. Just towel it off and you're GTG.
 
I was in a LGS checking out some guns and was talking to the owner about Glocks. He said he was a Certified Glock Armorer and that people tend to over lube their Glocks. He said he never cleaned or lubed his guns. He showed me his carry gun he had on at the time. It was a Gen2 G19 and he claimed it had over 27k rounds through it. He broke it down and showed me 4 places on the gun and said "if you are really anal about lubing your Glocks, then put a half a drop of oil right here". He then pointed out the places. I didn't ask how you metered a "half a drop of oil".
Certified Glock Armorer means very little to me. I have met a few Glock Armorers that were flat out scarry with the info they were handing out.
 
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