Those of you that have telescopic M4 style stocks on your shotguns? Do you like them? Can you shoot as well as with a regular stock? I've heard some bad reports. I notice Mossberg has several 500 and 590 models with this feature. It looks interesting but at the same time I've heard some shooters do not like them even getting cheek injuries.
M4 Style stock on shotgun?
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Those of you that have telescopic M4 style stocks on your shotguns? Do you like them? Can you shoot as well as with a regular stock? I've heard some bad reports. I notice Mossberg has several 500 and 590 models with this feature. It looks interesting but at the same time I've heard some shooters do not like them even getting cheek injuries.
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I have tried them on Remingtons. Did not care for them, there are better choices in my opinion
The main thing I liked was that I can change the LOP. Standard LOP 500s and 870s always seemed to be a little uncomfortable to me. In fact I understand a lot of people put a 12-13" LOP stock on tactical shotguns.
Had one on my Mossberg 500, came that way, thought it was cool. Then I realized its hard to use the safety and slide release. Put a standard stock on, and WOW, the Mossberg functions so much better with standard stock. Due to safety position, and slide release. Now my 500 is a plain jane shotgun, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
That is one disadvantage with Mossberg. The safety is setup for a standard style stock. I guess it doesn't matter if you are only going to use a regular stock.
It works fine for me and my R870. The safety button position is much more conducive to a pistol grip than the M500/M590, and it just feels more natural to me, as I learned to shoot long guns with that style of stock. I think it depends a lot on the shooter's personal preference.
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I don't have one, but I've used a couple.
Usually need higher sights because the m4 stock won't slope like a shotgun stock, and will make it hard to squish your face down to get to the bead. If you're using a red dot though, and need adjustable LOP, it's a good system (as long as it's from a reliable company). If you don't need the LOP adjustment, I say just get a fixed stock that fits you, be it traditional or pistol grip.
Usually need higher sights because the m4 stock won't slope like a shotgun stock, and will make it hard to squish your face down to get to the bead. If you're using a red dot though, and need adjustable LOP, it's a good system (as long as it's from a reliable company). If you don't need the LOP adjustment, I say just get a fixed stock that fits you, be it traditional or pistol grip.
I shot sporting clays using my 590 with an M4 style stock. No problems with cheek weld or sight picture. Got 26/50 - not bad considering I haven't shot clays for 10 years.
Gun got some funny looks from club members though...
Them: Why do you have a gun like that??
Me: Killin' zombies (without smiling).
The LOP on some of the guns with 'regular' stocks is just crazy. The M4 style stock lets me have some adjustment based on clothing choices, whether I am wearing a t-shirt, tactical vest, or Level III armor (for mall policing and ninjitsu situations).
Gun got some funny looks from club members though...
Them: Why do you have a gun like that??
Me: Killin' zombies (without smiling).
The LOP on some of the guns with 'regular' stocks is just crazy. The M4 style stock lets me have some adjustment based on clothing choices, whether I am wearing a t-shirt, tactical vest, or Level III armor (for mall policing and ninjitsu situations).
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^^^^This^^^^^
I have one on an 870 tactical. It has that silly breaching thingy. (I used to breach with det cord, but I digress....) I like it because I can adjust the length to a shorter pull and get in behind the gun better. No more blading myself and banging the bejeezus out of my shoulder. Same goes for the MagPul stock with the shorter pull.
I have one on an 870 tactical. It has that silly breaching thingy. (I used to breach with det cord, but I digress....) I like it because I can adjust the length to a shorter pull and get in behind the gun better. No more blading myself and banging the bejeezus out of my shoulder. Same goes for the MagPul stock with the shorter pull.
For the VAST majority of shooters, they are in love with an M4 style stock and can conjure up may scenarios for their use. For LEO this is a bit different but for Joe Sixpack, an M4 stock does little for you.
If you go with a short LOP stock from any reputable company, even with adding an inch of clothes thickness, you're still at 13" which is considered a youth/young adult size and works.
Remember that a short LOP can be shot by nearly everyone but a 14" can't but to the same degree unless you have ape length arms. The SKS, AK and Garand are examples of weapons that have a short LOP and you don't hear many people *****ing about them.
Go with a short LOP.
My .02.
If you go with a short LOP stock from any reputable company, even with adding an inch of clothes thickness, you're still at 13" which is considered a youth/young adult size and works.
Remember that a short LOP can be shot by nearly everyone but a 14" can't but to the same degree unless you have ape length arms. The SKS, AK and Garand are examples of weapons that have a short LOP and you don't hear many people *****ing about them.
Go with a short LOP.
My .02.
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The MagPul or the Urbino stocks are my first two pics.
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This, except I've almost come to dislike my Urbino now that the Magpul is out. The Urbino's grip is just so fat. If I could get myself to spend another $100, I'd have the SGA stock instead of the factory Police or Urbino.
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