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I find, at least with Glocks, that it’s unnecessary to lubricate the firearm after cleaning with CLP products since the CLP leaves behind a film of lubricant as part of its cleaning process. I clean by dampening a fiber towel with CLP and wipe away firing residue both inside/outside slide and within frame. Barrel gets a ten minute soaking with CLP and then its fouling is removed (brush and patches). I wipe off any excess CLP with a clean, dry part of the towel but enough of it remains on the gun for lubrication purposes.

(yes, occasionally, I will add a drop of CLP to the connector in the rear of the frame, but not after every cleaning, say after a few hundred rounds; otherwise, it’s too much and I’ll get spray back into slide while shooting,”less is more.”)

…what are your thoughts?
 
I don’t use CLP, perhaps it’s an unfounded bias I have, but I don’t believe a single product is good at all three functions. I use Mil-Comm products. The cleaner isn’t that aggressive, but when combined with the other products over time it doesn’t have to be. The cleaner doesn’t have an odor, which is important to me as chemicals tend to irritate me more than most people, and I find the lubricants stay on the gun and I haven’t had issues with corrosion since using the products. I probably put more lubricant on my gun(s) than the manual calls for, but that‘s simply a function of my not being concerned about the size of the drop applied in any given area. I also clean guns used regularly differently than guns used occasionally and/or stored.
 
I don't use oil as a general cleaning agent for guns, and certainly not on external surfaces. The main part of a pistol I clean with oil is the barrel, but that might be every 20 times I shoot it.
It funny how when you shoot a lot, your perspective changes on the method and frequency needed for cleaning a firearm.
 
It funny how when you shoot a lot, your perspective changes on the method and frequency needed for cleaning a firearm.
I think the most I've ever shot in a year was about 45k, so not really a lot. It was under 30k last year.

But if you're going to shoot reasonably frequently, let's say 3x/week, cleaning guns starts to be a chore. Maybe for people who shoot once a month it's fun, IDK. But to me, cleaning a gun every time you shoot it is like washing a car every time you drive it. It's completely unnecessary, and arguably bad for the mechanism.

There's a lot of ritualistic behavior around cleaning guns though, so whatever anyone wants to do...

I like to wipe my pistols off with 99% isopropyl every time I shoot them, mostly to clean off the front sight and get the fouling and grip compound off the gripping surfaces. I don't like them to be sticky. Last thing I want to do when I get back from the range is get oil all over the place, though.

Some people like to use a needle oiler on the rails every time they shoot, but that's easily done without taking the slide off or getting oil on the outside of the gun.
 
But if you're going to shoot reasonably frequently, let's say 3x/week, cleaning guns starts to be a chore.
I put 1,400 rounds on one of my GLOCK during a range session. When I started shooting several times a week, I became less critical of how detailed I needed to be with the guns I used for competition. My carry guns and guns used infrequently get an entirely different level of attention. Guns that stay in storage are kept spotless coated with oil/protectant to prevent corrosion.
I like to wipe my pistols off with 99% isopropyl every time I shoot them, mostly to clean off the front sight and get the fouling and grip compound off the gripping surfaces. I
I do the same with my GLOCKs since I use ProGrip and need to wipe it off to prevent buildup in my grips.
Some people like to use a needle oiler on the rails every time they shoot, but that's easily done without taking the slide off or getting oil on the outside of the gun.
I use needle oilers to prevent myself from being too heavy handed lubricating my guns. It lets me target what I need without going overboard. It’s also makes it easier to work with since I tend to buy large bottle of oil and cleaner.
 
I put 1,400 rounds on one of my GLOCK during a range session. When I started shooting several times a week, I became less critical of how detailed I needed to be with the guns I used for competition. My carry guns and guns used infrequently get an entirely different level of attention. Guns that stay in storage are kept spotless coated with oil/protectant to prevent corrosion.

I do the same with my GLOCKs since I use ProGrip and need to wipe it off to prevent buildup in my grips.

I use needle oilers to prevent myself from being too heavy handed lubricating my guns. It lets me target what I need without going overboard. It’s also makes it easier to work with since I tend to buy large bottle of oil and cleaner.
My approach to Glocks is basically to keep a very light film of oil on certain areas. The connector is the only thing I keep wet. Rail grooves get the needle oiler, then a patch wrapped around a credit card. But I'm only doing this at like 8 or 10k, except my carry gun.

The Tanfo's get grease, and it's important to check the barrel lugs every few sessions. That can usually be done by using a swab to redistribute what's already in there. I use a syringe to add more.

Fouling mixed with lube is a great polishing agent. So guns have a way of getting very smooth if not cleaned excessively. I like smooth guns, not clanky new guns.
 
…what are your thoughts?
The internet is filled with everybody's two cents on the subject; to the point that I'm a bit weary and have fallen back to the Glock Owner's Manual for guidance as to when an where to lubricate.

As to CLP? The owner's manual is not specific and refers to the term "lubricant". I use CPL as well. Never heard of a Glock being damaged using CLP. Others may have their own experiences.
 
I find, at least with Glocks, that it’s unnecessary to lubricate the firearm after cleaning with CLP products since the CLP leaves behind a film of lubricant as part of its cleaning process. I clean by dampening a fiber towel with CLP and wipe away firing residue both inside/outside slide and within frame. Barrel gets a ten minute soaking with CLP and then its fouling is removed (brush and patches). I wipe off any excess CLP with a clean, dry part of the towel but enough of it remains on the gun for lubrication purposes.

(yes, occasionally, I will add a drop of CLP to the connector in the rear of the frame, but not after every cleaning, say after a few hundred rounds; otherwise, it’s too much and I’ll get spray back into slide while shooting,”less is more.”)

…what are your thoughts?
After cleaning with CLP, I lube with CLP.

I know Glocks are supposed to be dry and relative to how I lube my AR15 it IS pretty dry... but the slide rails each get a drop and anywhere it says to lube in the manual is CLP'd fairly liberally.

I add a smear of grease to the striker lug, top of the cruciform, and the small area in the slide that the connector runs against.
 
My approach to Glocks is basically to keep a very light film of oil on certain areas. The connector is the only thing I keep wet. Rail grooves get the needle oiler, then a patch wrapped around a credit card. But I'm only doing this at like 8 or 10k, except my carry gun.

The Tanfo's get grease, and it's important to check the barrel lugs every few sessions. That can usually be done by using a swab to redistribute what's already in there. I use a syringe to add more.

Fouling mixed with lube is a great polishing agent. So guns have a way of getting very smooth if not cleaned excessively. I like smooth guns, not clanky new guns.
I read all of your posts in here, and consider you very accomplished.

Your methods and processes make a lot of sense. I don't clean my Glocks every time I shoot, either, or any of the guns really. I clean them every few (3-5 sessions), but as you said, if I cleaned them every time, I'd get tired of doing that. ARs are even less finicky with maintenance than people think. Just a touch more CLP on BCG parts every so often, and it runs really well.
 
I read all of your posts in here, and consider you very accomplished.

Your methods and processes make a lot of sense. I don't clean my Glocks every time I shoot, either, or any of the guns really. I clean them every few (3-5 sessions), but as you said, if I cleaned them every time, I'd get tired of doing that. ARs are even less finicky with maintenance than people think. Just a touch more CLP on BCG parts every so often, and it runs really well.
Basically from the very beginning I've had one primary pistol that almost all my volume went on. At first it was a 19, which was my only firearm. So that was my carry, practice and competition gun.

When I got into USPSA production, I moved to the 34. It quickly became clear I'd need multiple copies of the production gun. So my approach was to build a gun, break it in, prove it, start building another one, keep shooting the first one, break in the second one, then put the first one in the safe and continue that way until I had enough copies.

At that point I tend to stick with one gun for all my practice. That presents the opportunity to get some good data on wear and maintenance. So I just keep shooting the gun and see where the problems develop. To me, that make a lot more sense than constantly cleaning and preemptively replacing parts. If there's a question about whether the primary gun is reliable, I just take another one along. It's also good to experience mechanical failure in practice.

For my purposes, I want at least 3 copies of guns I'm serious about shooting. And I typically designate them as primary live, secondary live and dry. With the 34's, the dry gun has a reset trigger and I also have one with a dot, so 5 assembled guns.

With the Tanfo's I only have 3, but DA/SA dry fire is different from DAO. For example, I easily do 100k dry shots in a year. So that's a great way to figure out how far the TRS will go without any negative impact to live practice. When I break one in dry practice, it's easy to just pull another gun out of the safe.

I have a few carry gun surrogates for dry and live practice, so I'm not putting mileage on the actual carry piece. Anyway, that's generally how I go about it - the focus is on shooting, not cleaning stuff. And maintenance is mostly done in the dead of winter so as not to take up shooting or loading time.
 
Comprehensive Corrosion Test: 46 Products Compared | Day At The Range
This is a long well thought out test so read closer to the end if needed. The top 3 products seem to be way over the top for both corrosion protection and slipperiness. compared to ALL of the stuff we all believe in. I don't mind using up some of the 1/2 dozen products I already own but if I am laying out money today, it will be one of the top three. I bought some Hornady One Shot Lube even though I had a lifetime supply of other stuff. I think the new WD-40 Specialist could be great as well and its nothing like the old WD-40 not recommended for guns. Spray blast everything clean with non-clorinated brake cleaner and toothbrush then hit it with the Hornady. No way to elevate your average CLP you believe in to compete with this stuff.
 
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