[Paul73]

Hi,

just to throw this for a discussion - i just got back from the range, was testing and playing with sights adjustments... As i have it now - I did zero my laser to be consistently within a 1inch groups of 5 at 20ft - shooting from a handrest of course - i am not that good yet when shooting normally. I did consider 6-7 yards as a most typical distance for something like home defence at night or whenever you may need to rely on a laser, plus, at 20ft it was less wind from a range ventilators, so, a target was still.
Red dot is zeroed for further distances - 10-15yd and a laser POI then drifts quite a bit, 2-3 inches or so, comparing 6.5yd to 10yd.

Is there a consensus of any sort - what distance is 'ideal' for a laser POA/POIsetup? I know not a lot of people are into lasers, but, anyway, if there is any opinions - pls share.

 

[thomgetch]

There is a school of thought which I follow that says the laser point should not be zeroed to a specific point. For example, the laser emitter is located 1.5 inch from the center of your barrel. Theoretically then all shots within a reasonable pistol distance should hit 1.5 inches above the laser dot. 5. 10. 15, 20 yrds. You learn thru practice and training that your shot will hit a certain distance above the dot at any range. For SD purposes this is just fine and if done properly even a longer shot will still have some consistency.

 

[Paul73]

There is a school of thought which I follow that says the laser point should not be zeroed to a specific point.

hmm. so, essentially, at setting it up i should have got a POI consistent group exactly 1.5 inch higher from a laser POA at those 20ft... and that would translate then into a better accuracy, say, at 20yd. i will think of that, thx. makes perfect sense, not sure why i did not think of that.
i just got fixated on setting POI to hit an exact spot where the laser beam was.

 

[thomgetch]

hmm. so, essentially, at setting it up i should have got a POI consistent group exactly 1.5 inch higher from a laser POA at those 20ft... and that would translate then into a better accuracy, say, at 20yd. i will think of that, thx. makes perfect sense, not sure why i did not think of that.
i just got fixated on setting POI to hit an exact spot where the laser beam was.

Pro and con to each method. Consider your intended usage. Home defense then 15/20 yrd exact zero just fine. A charging griz however I want to know best I can just where that bullet will go. Don’t over think it.

 

[cciman]

Hi,
i am not that good yet when shooting normally.

First learn to shoot, basics and fundamentals, then revisit your question. Get "good" at shooting normally first. Presently you are just putting duct tape over the obvious problem, with the laser.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li0rGtXh23I

 

[Paul73]

First learn to shootI

You gotta learn how to speak drill sergeant, if you wanna give ‘advices’ in such style.

30 years ago I was able to do a group of 5 into a 1 inch bullseye. Now, it is a much less likely. Hands do shake too much.
Plus, now it is just a hobby.

 

[cciman]

30 years ago I was able to do a group of 5 into a 1 inch bullseye. Now, it is a much less likely. Hands do shake too much.
Plus, now it is just a hobby.

Then YOU should know more than the open internet idiot gallery. 30 years ago, I was faster, stronger-- but I shoot better today from practice, trigger time, and fire control.
Things change in 30 years...like loss of skills, sight, memory, and or physical abilities. Laser sights will not fix shaky hands problem-- if anything, will make it worse if not shooting off a rest. Go back to iron sights.

 

[phonejack]

I’ve always used a 25 yard zero.

 

[Vaquero 357]

*25 yrd POA / POI. Remember, gravity causes bullets to drop.

*subjective.