[Folsom_Prison]

I was in a business and this lady is going off about the parking outside and who TF was over the line blah blah. I realized she was talking about my truck after a few seconds.

Fwiw parking here isn’t exactly big 3/4 ton long bed friendly, the parking was already jacked up with others across the line when I got there, not exactly my fault. Regardless nobody else cared but this lady apparently. I had to run back out to my truck and that’s when she realized who was driving said truck. When I came back inside here she comes gong off on me, told her I didnt do anything to you or have bothered you since I’ve been here, just mind your own business lady.

Then she goes off with the explicits and name calling, now I’m pissed and you crossed my threshold of being nice and trying to avoid you. Tried to be the bigger guy but she wouldn’t stop so I let her have a piece of my mind, she seemed kinda taken back being treated the way she just treated me in typical Karen fashion from videos I’ve seen online.

I can’t leave yet but trying to get out of dodge, her next move was out the front door. I figured she had enough, was going to go take pictures of my truck or key it, wasn’t sure at that point. But she proceeded to go back to her car as I’m watching her and i thought oh boy here we go.

No idea what she did going to her car but none of the above happened, and she came back inside empty handed and still going off. I’m just done at this point with this old hag that apparently nobody loves. I finally am able to make my way back to my truck and she follows me out to it. 🤦‍♂️

She’s still going off as I’m trying to put my stuff in the truck. Thankfully she didn’t try to stop me from getting in the truck ect. Thankfully she never tried to damage my stuff, thankfully she never came back inside with a bat or worse, thankfully she never tried to throw fists at me.

My first hand with someone like this in public, I’ve had instances with inmates but that’s different. Makes you realize these people do exist but after the smoke cleared and my blood pressure has dropped it’s had me wondering the what if’s?

I was raised to never hit a woman. That said as a guy what if she had thrown hands? I don’t carry spray anymore, maybe I should again, idk. I think the most conflicting aspect of this incident is if you were to go hands on with someone like this or spray them ect they always play the victim card.

Thoughts? Hopefully it doesn’t happen ever again fwiw.

 

[G19213042]

The law doesn't require you to allow her to hit you, so reasonable force to stop her would have been appropriate. Your description of events indicates that if you'd just batted her hands away with some force, she'd have probably ceased any physicality. At that point, you would want to call the police and have an assault or battery charge filed against her.

Quite frankly, you could have gotten her charged with breach of peace based on what you said about the volume of her expletives. Granted, the specific charge would be contingent upon what your local laws say.

 

[Folsom_Prison]

The law doesn't require you to allow her to hit you, so reasonable force to stop her would have been appropriate. Your description of events indicates that if you'd just batted her hands away with some force, she'd have probably ceased any physicality. At that point, you would want to call the police and have an assault or battery charge filed against her.

Quite frankly, you could have gotten her charged with breach of peace based on what you said about the volume of her expletives. Granted, the specific charge would be contingent upon what your local laws say.

Fair enough, thankfully it didn’t escalate to that. I’ve just had a perception that as a guy that were to go hands on with a women in a defense situation might not end well. At least that’s been the case for one or two people I’ve known. Probably a loaded question and depends on where you live and who shows up to the incident.

In regards to the breach of peace it never crossed my mind, stuff happens fast. I’m more of an introvert and was just trying to get the hell out of there, she wasn’t worth my time.

 

[pgg00]

Sometimes people should be punched in the mouth

 

[mj9mm]

That’s an awful thing to have to go through,, glad you came out as good as you did, could have been way worse..
I’d pay good money to watch you give her a stream of bear repellent, maybe you should start carrying it.. too bad no one cared enough to call the cops on your behalf..
Good luck and don’t let Karen defeat you…

 

[40/45]

I just deleted everything i wrote because I’m a legal gun carrier.
Suffice it to say I hope that never happens to me and I’m glad that you didn’t cross the line.
People suck.
I never park near other vehicles.

 

[Bradley T]

Park as far away from store as possible. Parking up by door with other people’s vehicles will make your car a hit n run target completely. Few have manners, few have sense, and even fewer know how to properly operate a motor vehicle!

 

[Folsom_Prison]

Sometimes people should be punched in the mouth

Well I sure won’t argue that comment, that said I wasn’t going down that road. Maybe that’s what she was after idk, I was just trying to mind my own business but she took it there and thankfully she didn’t make things worse. I bet this wasn’t her first rodeo, maybe she will eventually find the one and I hope she does.

 

[40/45]

Well I sure won’t argue that comment, that said I wasn’t going down that road. Maybe that’s what she was after idk, I was just trying to mind my own business but she took it there and thankfully she didn’t make things worse. I bet this wasn’t her first rodeo, maybe she will eventually find the one and I hope she does.

It’s a tough, pretty much no win situation.

 

[Folsom_Prison]

That’s an awful thing to have to go through,, glad you came out as good as you did, could have been way worse..
I’d pay good money to watch you give her a stream of bear repellent, maybe you should start carrying it.. too bad no one cared enough to call the cops on your behalf..
Good luck and don’t let Karen defeat you…

The funny thing was it was a fairly busy establishment. She wasn’t quiet about it all and neither was I after a certain point. Everybody inside was either oblivious in their phones or heard what was going and acted like nothing was happening.

 

[Folsom_Prison]

I just deleted everything i wrote because I’m a legal gun carrier.
Suffice it to say I hope that never happens to me and I’m glad that you didn’t cross the line.
People suck.
I never park near other vehicles.

I agree. As far as the parking situation goes there were no other options. Regardless it wasn’t really my fault, guess I won the a hole lottery today.

 

[Folsom_Prison]

Park as far away from store as possible. Parking up by door with other people’s vehicles will make your car a hit n run target completely. Few have manners, few have sense, and even fewer know how to properly operate a motor vehicle!

Well it’s a 150 year old plus cramped downtown area, not like a Walmart parking lot with a couple of acres of room fwiw.

 

[40/45]

I agree. As far as the parking situation goes there were no other options. Regardless it wasn’t really my fault, guess I won the a hole lottery today.

I get it.
But stuff happens, that’s why we’re armed. But because of that we’re also held to higher standards.
I learned this many years ago. Luckily through someone else’s mistake. Long story, but that incident really made me clean up my anger issues. And try to stay away from other humans as much as possible.

 

[Folsom_Prison]

I get it.
But stuff happens, that’s why we’re armed. But because of that we’re also held to higher standards.
I learned this many years ago. Luckily through someone else’s mistake. Long story, but that incident really made me clean up my anger issues. And try to stay away from other humans as much as possible.

I understand, like I said I’m more of an introvert and the older I get I try to avoid people. I don’t have anger issues ect, I was just taught respect. I tried to be nice, but once the explicits and MF’s she started dropping I was done and she lost my respect. I was carrying, last thought on my mind was whipping something out. When she went to her car though I had the oh crap moment wondering why. Wild what can go down in a handful or less of minutes.

 

[Onkel Walther]

Next time call police and tell them, that there is an aggressive and offensive woman. Probably drugged.
50% chance for another funny taser video at YouTube.

 

[Bosch]

POM spray is cheap insurance.

 

[Bahn]

OP, sorry that you had that experience. I grew up in a not-so polite city so I'm partially used to the BS karens or whatever, but as I grow older I have less tolerance. That said I found shrugging off then deliberately showing disinterest works most of the time. Specially when you've already kindly, tried to reciprocate their rage to try to calm them. It doesn't spare me the after-irritation of the moment and 's not easy but I can sleep over it.

The law doesn't protect any of us from getting emotionally hurt so definitely what you did NOT DO was good. What you felt like doing at the time was human, but you controlled yourself and was still aware of the potential lethality of the moment by observing the Karen consistently. I applaud you for that.

I just use those moments to fuel my resistance training.

 

[CDW4ME]

If a woman takes physical action against a man she may get a physical response.

 

[norton]

Probably that time of the month.

 

[DaleGribble]

I drive a Chevy 2500 so I understand the parking thing, however, just because someone else parked over a line doesn't mean you should do the same. FWIW, I tend to park in the farther away spots, it's just easier.

My next question is, were you carrying a gun? If you were, giving her a piece of your mind was a bad idea.

I carry a gun everywhere, and I'm nice everywhere. I don't want to get into any kind of altercation, whether that be verbal or physical. I don't want to do anything to increase the chances of me needing to defend myself. Consequently, I go through life trying not to give people a piece of my mind. If I make a mistake in traffic and someone flips me off, I make it a point to get away from them. If I accidentally anger someone in public, as you did in this situation, I apologize.

If you had looked at her and said "Maam, you're right, I shouldn't have parked over that line and thank you for letting me know." you would have been viewed as the calm one. If she kept chirping, you can repeat yourself, and help defuse the situation. That way your blood pressure doesn't go up, and maybe you helped a crazy person be a little less crazy for a few minutes.

It's always, always, always better to try and diffuse anger before it leads to violence. If that doesn't work and you do have to resort to violence, you'll look like less of an aggressor to the police, a prosecutor, and a jury.