almost bought one....he even sent me a $20 discount and free shipping. i have one of his flat face triggers which doesn't work well for me so i stuck with one of his oem shoes. maybe try one in the future. thanks for the post!

 

That $22 shoe is awesome, especially for the price. I hate to say this, but I like it better than the Vex. It's wider and with the trimmed down dingus is extremely comfortable. I think, for my taste, Johnny went a little too narrow with the Vex and I think the safety spring is a bit too strong considering it is more narrow than on the flat face shoe. With the narrower shoe and more contour it reminds me more of the OEM serrated shoe which I hated.

Installed mine a few days ago....hopefully get to the range soon. I do notice a little of what you're saying just in some dry fire practice ....hope it's not an issue cause I broke my trigger shoe taking it off to install the VEX

I think a lot of folks will like it, but it is is a big departure from what JG has offered. Width and contour varies a lot from different designs. As an example, my first "replacement" shoe was an Overwatch Poly DAT which I found far too wide and, as it's plastic, I ended up contouring it myself. It was much better with the contour, but the JG $22.00 with adjustable pre-travel adjustment was better for me yet. I think the $22 shoe and the flat face shoe are almost a toss-up for me, but the flat face shoe wins because it comes with pre-travel adjustment and the over-travel adjustment just shortens the reset and I think does make a difference. The Vex has a little of both built in, but the trigger stroke overall is longer than the way I have the flat face set. I just wanted to try the Vex just to see. I'll probably end up selling it.

BTW... The hex screw installation was super simple to put on the trigger bar. He has the same thing on the flat face and I appreciate that.

 

Installed mine a few days ago....hopefully get to the range soon. I do notice a little of what you're saying just in some dry fire practice ....hope it's not an issue cause I broke my trigger shoe taking it off to install the VEX

 

Vex Day 2 update:

I got to play with the Vex trigger with a little more time to think about what I liked and didn't like which caused my initial comments. It's a good trigger and those who like Glock OEM shoe will probably like this shoe. In review I really only found one thing that I didn't like: The etching is too deep on the safety lever, which makes the edges of it to sharp (IMO) and makes it seems like the feel of the safety lever never goes away, even when flush. I'm not sure if I'll keep this trigger or sell it. I'm thinking about a 48 MOS, in which case I will go after the etching and edges on the safety lever and think I will be perfectly fine with it. I know that those who pull from the first knuckle will probably adore this shoe.

I wanted to know how the trigger pull stroke compared to the flat face shoe that has adjustable over-travel. The results didn't surprise me. The stroke of the Vex is a bit longer after the break, and so the total stroke and reset of the Vex is 5/32nd"-6/32nd" longer than than my flat face, as I have the overtravel on the FF dialed in pretty tight. I'd mentioned this before, but the break with the Vex installed is very, very crisp.

IMO this doesn't kill the flat face shoe, but does bring an interesting alternative with similar quality to those who don't like flat face shoes in general. Perhaps I was a bit too harsh initially, but getting to play with the Vex a bit has changed my mind somewhat. Again, I'd get in and soften the etchings on the safety lever, but all in all it is a pretty good shoe.

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Interesting.

 

To anyone using the vex trigger is your trigger pin moving on you? Mine is not walking out of the gun and it’s catching on the wire on the slide lock for sure just moves back and forth compared to the stock trigger. Can it be because the shoe is more narrow? Thanks

 

mine started doing it today when I switched to the vex shoe. Please tell me you know how to fix this!!

 

I thought that trigger pin screwed in.

 

Sorry not the set screw for the trigger bar but the actual Glock pin that goes through the frame and trigger

 

Does anyone have a problem with the safety of it? I can put a finger on each side of the trigger without touching the safety and the trigger will go in with reasonable amount of pressure. I can push as hard as I want with the stock and it won't go in. Also I can get the trigger safety to scrape the polymer on the grip frame when pulling in the trigger at times. especially when I pull from the first knuckle, Not so much with my finger tip . I was trying to upload video but wouldn't upload.

 

Something is wrong with the trigger you have. It is either the trigger or the installation of the trigger. Call JG.

 

I'll call tomorrow. I doubt I put it In wrong it was super easy to install , Along with the 4.5 springs that came with it. Unless I' an missing a minor detail. Am I wrong think it should not be able to push it like the stock one when the safety in not pressed in!

 

I ended up picking up his striker and dot connector for mine, but decided against the shoe. I already have a host of different striker springs so didn't feel like picking up the entire trigger kit was worth it.

 

I was going to order a vex trigger but now I think I want to find one to try before I buy after reading this.


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Hi there, Did you get ahold of JG on the safety and trigger pin issue’s on your Vex trigger? I just purchased one its on the way to me and now after reading this I’m a bit worried to say the least.. please give us an update as to what you found out.
Thanks

 

BIG TURN-AROUND UPDATE...
It's been quite a while since I started this thread. I was just reminded that I started this thread and needed to update my review. But I came to one of those CTJ moments when I realized that I was overlooking how good the Vex trigger could and woul be for me.

To try to keep this brief, I bought a G48 MOS and had the trigger shoe in my bin. Being able to use it side by side with Johnny Glock's flat face shoe made me realize that, for whatever reason, I tend to shoot better with the Vex. I discovered that I was mostly annoyed by the (IMO) overly aggressive etchings and hard edges of the safety lever. I also found the right trigger bar that works well with the Vex in my 48 (I've got 3 trigger bars and they all feel different when installed in the same pistol).

So I have the Vex set up in my 48 and Johnny Glocks modified OEM shoe in my 43x with trigger bars that are part of the best "recipe" for both pistols so they both now feel extremely similar.
And so I said in my original review that the Vex trigger shoe was "not for me". It took me awhile to figure things out, and make the Vex a little more comfortable for me and my princess-like fingers, but here we are. [I don't even know how to equate everything as I play guitar and bass every day to the point where I don't even have callouses, but the instruments' strings don't bother me... but a trigger shoe???]

 

If I was your wife I would say
“I TOLD YOU SO” you should have listened to me when I told you too!!

 

Loctite on the pins?? It’s just a punch thru pin. There’s no threads on it so why loctite it

 

The Vex trigger shoes direct from Andy @ RPG do indeed use a threaded SS pin to secure it to the trigger bar. You'll need to use Blue LockTite to prevent problems. I've got mine mounted to my OE 48 MOS trigger bar. Verdict: No thanks. It's a cool design and would be really nice if the shoe safety tab were wider, less sharp and no serrations. Some may like it, I don't. I'll stick with Overwatch Precision DAT triggers. Kinda my go too in the Glock world.

 

He is building a new shop 6 miles from me so guess where I will be hanging out.

 

Haha yep I saw on instagram. I wonder what the deal is with the new shop. Have you heard he will be manufacturing his own trigger shoes now?

 

Not too sure but he told me to get with him in a couple of weeks and see whats up. He has done work for me before when he was in Venice, Fl.

 

The Vex trigger shoes direct from Andy @ RPG do indeed use a threaded SS pin to secure it to the trigger bar. You'll need to use Blue LockTite to prevent problems. I've got mine mounted to my OE 48 MOS trigger bar. Verdict: No thanks. It's a cool design and would be really nice if the shoe safety tab were wider, less sharp and no serrations. Some may like it, I don't. I'll stick with Overwatch Precision DAT triggers. Kinda my go too in the Glock world.

Have you messed around with the tac trigger? I’m really starting to enjoy the flat face w hooked bottom design.

In all honesty I am going give the Falix a shot also. I love flat face trigger but for some reason, I find a curved trigger easier to pull from the bottom every time.

 

I have not. I'm very happy with the DAT, I had one on a G43 years ago. I also ran a flat (Steel City Arsenal) on my recently sold SS MR920. I like the looks of the TAC, but for the reduced price of the DAT, I can live with no lip at the bottom. They're just a really good value in the heavily saturated Glock trigger market. Plus the fact they're approved by some LE agencies across the country.. that kinda tells you something right there.

Also, just to be clear. Both my G19.5 and G48 are truly self defense guns and not range toys. Range toys? Go all out and have fun tinkering no doubt. But these 2 I'm trying to keep the pull fairly heavy but smooth with a crisp break. I need to pull both on my Lyman, but in my noggin they both feel north of 4lbs right now. That works perfect.

Falix is $$$ but looks like a really nice trigger setup too.

Edit: Man, I really don't want to bash the Vex. It really is a cool design and well constructed. It's just a shame on the few areas it falls short in my eye. Oh well..

 

I really loved the Vex to start out with. I still use it from time to time just to mess around. But in all honesty I think my calling is a curved trigger again. Trying to find a 2nd hand Falix shoe and will upload a video/pictures if successful

I'm a continuing fan of the Johnny Glock $22 OEM modified shoe. Shaved down dingus which can be refined further. Adjustable pre-travel set screw (amazing if you know how to adjust it properly). Nothing cheaper out there. I've owned the Overwatch Poly DAT shoe, the JG Flat face shoe and tthe Vex shoe. I keep coming back to the $22 cheap one. Combined with a Ghost pro connector in my 43x and 48 I am not finding any other combination I like better (when adjusted properly).

If you read the description, the FALX shoe purports to have the same 20% pre-travel reduction as their Poly DAT shoe. IMO the pre-travel reduction wasn't nearly enough to make a discernable difference. I'm sure they're great shoes for those that like the OP configurations. I'm sure I would have liked that contour of that trigger better than the Poly DAT as I had to countour the edges of the Poly Dat to make it less wide feeling.

 

*The JG $22 OEM modified shoe is of great interest to me but videos , etc. of the installation are somewhat limited (I'm hoping JG provides solid instructions with the $22 shoe) . I just replaced the OEM serrated shoe in my G26.3 to an OEM smooth face shoe complete with trigger bar to match my G17.3 . While it is an improvement - I have to believe the JG $22 OEM modified shoe would work out even better for me (especially in high round count competition where the OEM stock dingus on the smooth face shoe can wear on my trigger finger . Learning about pre-travel adjustment as well as have the pre-travel properly set up would appear to be a nice long-term upgrade as well . I'll continue to look for learning resources as the JG $22 OEM modified shoe will definitely be in my future !

 

*The JG $22 OEM modified shoe is of great interest to me but videos , etc. of the installation are somewhat limited (I'm hoping JG provides solid instructions with the $22 shoe) . I just replaced the OEM serrated shoe in my G26.3 to an OEM smooth face shoe complete with trigger bar to match my G17.3 . While it is an improvement - I have to believe the JG $22 OEM modified shoe would work out even better for me (especially in high round count competition where the OEM stock dingus on the smooth face shoe can wear on my trigger finger . Learning about pre-travel adjustment as well as have the pre-travel properly set up would appear to be a nice long-term upgrade as well . I'll continue to look for learning resources as the JG $22 OEM modified shoe will definitely be in my future !

I'll see if I can make a video for you later today. It's really super simple. The hardest part of it is being able to tap our the pin on the original shoe without damaging it so you can use it again if you need to (like if you have to send your pistol back to Glock in its original configuration. The rest is easy. The only thing to worry about is taking out too much overtravel. But I have an illustration to use to use (for educational purposes only. Have armorer check for safety to be sure and test the crap out of it to make sure you don't have issues).

What I like about the $22 is that I can out all the slop and just leave a little take-up. With this shoe I like the Ghost PRO connector because, when the connector is tuned properly (needs adjusting for over-travel reduction) the pre-travel reduction pushes the birds-beak of the trigger bar back so the "roll" of the pull, like many 3rd party connectors provide, is limited because the trigger bar has pushed a lot through the rolling part of the pull. What I get when I pull the trigger is smooth, consistent resistance until the break. After practicing with it I know where the break it and can, should I want, find the place where it might be considered a "stage" before the break. However, the OEM connector is just fine for most if you like a crisp break as I believe most people do. The one extra thing that I do with the $22 shoe is I sand down the dingus a bit further to make it feel better, checking to make sure that it still functions as it is supposed to. It goes almost flush to the shoe body and my finger feels the contour of the shoes rather than the dingus. BEING AWARE OF MODIFYING THE ELEMENTS IN THE SHOE FOR SAFETY IS CRITICAL. Again, test to make sure it's drop safe and that the shoe still functions as that first safety.

I've said this many many times but worth repeating: When installing 3rd party or modified parts you must test extensively before it should be deemed worthy for carry.

 

Thanks vindibona1 - that would be great ! ... Also , if I need any specific tools , punches , etc. that need to be used in the process for removing the Glock OEM shoe / installing the JG OEM shoe ... Thanks in advance .

 

Thanks vindibona1 - that would be great ! ... Also , if I need any specific tools , punches , etc. that need to be used in the process for removing the Glock OEM shoe / installing the JG OEM shoe ... Thanks in advance .

Here ya go. Not professional or anything, but should get you started. The key is to be comfortable taking down the lower/frame to get at the shoe so you can make the adjustments of the pre-travel reduction. A small turn can have quite the effect. Just be sure you don't start to engage the safety plunger. But I've included an illustration of what to look for. Once the safety plunger can be fully extended just back off another quarter turn. While I think it's still safe just to touch the plunger, a some margin won't hurt. The main thing is that you can easily remove all the unnecessary slop. Let me know how it goes. If you have any more questions just PM me.

Installation of Johnny Glock $22 shoe video

 

Here ya go. Not professional or anything, but should get you started. The key is to be comfortable taking down the lower/frame to get at the shoe so you can make the adjustments of the pre-travel reduction. A small turn can have quite the effect. Just be sure you don't start to engage the safety plunger. But I've included an illustration of what to look for. Once the safety plunger can be fully extended just back off another quarter turn. While I think it's still safe just to touch the plunger, a some margin won't hurt. The main thing is that you can easily remove all the unnecessary slop. Let me know how it goes. If you have any more questions just PM me.

Installation of Johnny Glock $22 shoe video

*Perfect - thank you very much ! This will make a great JG $22 OEM Smooth Faced Trigger Shoe Total Installation very satisfied ... I just need to buy a basic block as I already have the 3/32nd & 1/16th punches and mallet . Good to know I don't need to buy any special roll pen punches , etc. for the work.

 

*Perfect - thank you very much ! This will make a great JG $22 OEM Smooth Faced Trigger Shoe Total Installation very satisfied ... I just need to buy a basic block as I already have the 3/32nd & 1/16th punches and mallet . Good to know I don't need to buy any special roll pen punches , etc. for the work.

It's a straight forward procedure.
There is one more thing that I do... that I'm not necessarily encouraging... I sand down the dingus (safety level) of the shoe to smooth things out. Johnny essentially slices the excess dingus off with a blade, so it's not as refined as it could be. But what do you want for $22?

I'm about to PM you with additional information that you might find interesting. It won't change or contradict anything on the installation video, but perhaps bring a bit more insight into the testing I've done.

 

*On a semi-related note : I notice in the JG videos he does not use oil on his Glock connectors - but instead prefers the Loctite C5A copper anti seize lube (all Glocks ship with this applied to various internal areas) which he applies to the metal part of the trigger assembly that rubs over the connector . I thought that was interesting and wondered if anyone else uses such a grease on the metal part ofthe trigger that rubs against the connector ? ... Currently , I follow Glock directions and add a drop of oil from the top to the connector after cleaning / servicing my Glocks but after several months I found that when taking out the trigger assembly that one drop of oil each time collected down on the bottom of the pistol running off the bottom of the connector . Again , just thinking that JG's preferred way to specifically lube the connector will prevent an oil puddle running off the connector collecting where you don't later want it .

 

I use tw25b it stays were I put it.