Did you walk into the theater with a notepad and pen?

Haven’t seen the movie yet so...

#2. For effects only I’m sure, but the some Russian imported 9mm ammo is copper plated over steel. It can spark when you shoot steel plates with it. So plausible imo.

* #1 benelli m3 (I think) had the dual action that allowed for chambering a round from the mag tube via pumping it. Semi auto afterwards.

 

Did you walk into the theater with a notepad and pen?

:laughabove:

 

It's just a fictional movie with really stiffy, and awkward action moves. Only the hardcore fans are into it. The story line, cinematography, and Halle Berry are awesome though!

 

Halle no you should go

 

Picky, Picky, Picky....did you also notice tha

 

Its a MOVIE , not like it matters !!! If you really are that concerned you may need to go see a shrink . I watch movies for the entertainment value only .

I hardly notice Halle Berry had a gun and what kind ?? Who cares !!

 

Its a MOVIE , not like it matters !!! If you really are that concerned you may need to go see a shrink . I watch movies for the entertainment value only .

I hardly notice Halle Berry had a gun and what kind ?? Who cares !!

I agree all 3 are entertaining. Not watching it to count the gaffs

 

That's the Benelli M4

 

Don’t forget it’s Hollywood and they never reload for the number times they fire. You would think they had belt fed pistols.

 

I thought it was WAY above average insofar as gun handling and fight scenes, better than everything I have seen actually from that point of view except -maybe- Heat.

The 9mm choice in that scene was debatable but who cares really?

 

never saw a movie yet that shows the true recoil of a fired gun, whether a pistol or rifle.

 

Typical mistakes in Hollywood movies not exclusive to this one.
Never need reloads.
Use guns from wrong time period.
Sparks when hit anything.
Shotguns blow out entire walls.
Hero can make impossible shots while villans can never hit.
A Team TV show 1980s can never hit anything especially with mini 14.
Large handguns like DE 50 AE never have much recoil.
That's entertainment.

 

The Colt 1908 used by Winston was sweet.

 

There are lots of Youtube videos of Keaneu training with professionals and a lot of the techniques he uses are what a SEAL/CIA operator taught him. Also, he is VERY competent with a handgun.

 

It is not an instructional movie. It's just for entertainment. No such extensively trained person can survive all that.

 

It's a fictional movie! Give it a break. I hate to see your reaction to Batman.
My point is that a lot of his basics are from extensive training. NOT that anyone would survive the fictional movie scenes
Watch his Youtubes and see for yourself.
Or better yet, stick to documentaries.

 

Fictional movie, not a documentary.
Some people are just fun at parties.

 

Your 1,2,3 are pretty solid. Halle's gun nay have been a threaded barrel sticking out, but could also have been locked up. The body armor sparking is pure Hollywood and no one would choose those guns against heavily armored opponents unless Taran Tactical had specifically trained him on them and helped pick them for the scenes.
The "pumping" of the shotgun was him using a match saver. He's using a Benelli M2 setup for 3gun that Taran makes.
The only explanation I could come up with for the cylinder swapping is that maybe all the guns in the museum were deactivated in different ways. Maybe the barrel on one was plugged, but the cylinder on another was. He could have been swapping parts to make one functional. Either way it was a huge waste of time to kill one random dude when he takes on the rest of the gang with knives.

They also have gotten cartoonish in much of the gunplay. It's like they got so much praise for him reloading, press checking, using tactics, etc that the producers decided to do it a bunch more. At some points he loads a 30+rd mag, fires 8 or so and dumps it for a reload. He ended up dropping over half the ammo he carried into the big fight. He also shoots people that are already dead many times. The unarmored guys in the fight with Halle, they shoot them 3-6 times in the chest and then put 1-3 in the head after they are down. One of the armored guys got like 7-8 "armor piercing" slugs.

Overall it's a very enjoyable movie and I'm looking forward to the next one. They have just turned a corner in the gun handling and realism a little bit

 

Did you walk into the theater with a notepad and pen?

Haven’t seen the movie yet so...

#2. For effects only I’m sure, but the some Russian imported 9mm ammo is copper plated over steel. It can spark when you shoot steel plates with it. So plausible imo.

* #1 benelli m3 (I think) had the dual action that allowed for chambering a round from the mag tube via pumping it. Semi auto afterwards.

No it was a ****in Pen-cil


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Curious about firearms mistakes I missed in John Wick 3 (had to rewatch it again with little cousin and wifey today). I’m not talking about him beating the odds, his attackers being mindless putties who never shoot him when they have a clear shot. I’m interested in clear firearms mistakes that the movie consultants missed (or producers ignored). So far I’ve got the following mistakes:

1) Hallie Berry’s pistol is clearly out of battery while she aims it at John during their first encounter

Berry's P365 had a custom threaded barrel.

 

The parts swapping scene with the old revolvers was a nod to the impromptu scene that was done on the fly in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Eli Wallach improvised that scene in the film and the director decided to leave it in.

 

There were some nuggets in that movie. That nugget was one of the more obscure ones. Most people noticed the line about "lots of guns" from The Matrix.

 

For those who complained about the SIG MPX peashooter selection, I think that might have been a Taran thing. That Taran Tactical dude had a YouTube video at either NRA show or SHOT Show (can't remember which) talking about the JW3 SIG because it's the "in" thing with all the latest gee whiz doodads done to it. Plus the director had to get the shotgun repertoire into the scenes somehow.

Imagine had John Wick picked up the Galil ARM .308 that was sitting on the table and went to town on the invaders. There wouldn't be anyone left to shoot and he wouldn't have to come back to get the shotgun with steel armor piercing slugs, nor would he have to waste all that 9mm Major ammo.

 

Imagine had John Wick picked up the Galil ARM .308 that was sitting on the table and went to town on the invaders. There wouldn't be anyone left to shoot and he wouldn't have to come back to get the shotgun with steel armor piercing slugs, nor would he have to waste all that 9mm Major ammo.

During that scene, my wife looked at me and said: "why didn't he get the Galil?" My response was "Because then the movie would be over way too soon".

I married the right woman.

 

Typical mistakes in Hollywood movies not exclusive to this one.
Never need reloads.
Use guns from wrong time period.
Sparks when hit anything.
Shotguns blow out entire walls.
Hero can make impossible shots while villans can never hit.
A Team TV show 1980s can never hit anything especially with mini 14.
Large handguns like DE 50 AE never have much recoil.
That's entertainment.

I spoke to a producer for the A team many years ago. He said that the only way they were allowed to have the show on prime time was to not "hit anyone" and to minimize casualties etc. Ever notice that when there is a car wreck / jeep flip everyone makes it out? That was done for the same reason

 

I read that was the reason too.

 

I don't think it is too much to ask for some basic level of accuracy. Why even bother using real gun models if pure fantasy is the game? Allowing Hollywood to fabricate gun reality (silencers going "phhht" like a mouse fart) only allows them to reinforce their wild misconceptions and perpetuate their anti-gun lies!

More annoying than that to me is fake CPR. People may actually need to know how to administer CPR some day, and watching someone bang on a chest or give mouth-to-mouth for a few seconds (without even checking breathing or pulse), only to have them miraculously cough, sit up, and immediately happily walk away isn't terribly responsible. It is disseminating misinformation and mis-educating.

Sure, it is just a movie. But given their political leanings, do we really want them filling our friends and neighbors with more falsehoods and their anti-gun biases?

I can watch movies without having my blood pressure rise, but I do notice and get mildly annoyed they don't care enough to get their facts straight!

They hire consultants, obtain mocked up guns in the exact image of real guns, and then throw it all away and rack the slide (AGAIN... with no bullet ejection) for no good reason other than they think the audience wants the "shickSHICK" of a gun being racked!

I do like when people fly backwards after getting hit by a 9mm round, though (while the shooter remains stationary). It gives our Physics teachers something to talk to the kids about!

Ahhhh, Hollywood!

 

Email Taran and tell him to get it together.

 

Taran is no doubt the reason that the gun handling skills are better than your average film. I also think the producers may have taken some of his influence to extremes. The PCC against the armored deathsquad in JW3 is a prime example. The worst was staging 3 guns in JW2 for a mock ‘3 gun’ assault on bad guys in Italian catacombs. That alone made me cringe enough that I’ve only watched JW2 once.

I should have added a caveat to OP. I am aware that the film is a work of fiction.

 

The movie Act of Valor with real SEALs starred in it and real combat tactics didn’t exactly set the box office on fire.

 

All you need to know about JW3 guns.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/John_Wick:_Chapter_3_-_Parabellum

• 1 Handguns
  • 1.1 Arex REX Alpha
  • 1.2 Bond Arms Texas Defender
  • 1.3 Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless
  • 1.4 CZ 75B
  • 1.5 Glock 17
  • 1.6 Glock 19
  • 1.7 Glock 19 (TTI Combat Master Package)
  • 1.8 Glock 34
  • 1.9 Heckler & Koch P30L
  • 1.10 Hudson H9
  • 1.11 Kimber 1911
  • 1.12 Remington 1875
  • 1.13 SIG-Sauer P365
  • 1.14 TTI STI 2011 Combat Master
  • 1.15 Walther P99
  • 1.16 Unidentified Pistols
• 2 Submachine Guns
  • 2.1 Heckler & Koch MP5 variant
  • 2.2 SIG-Sauer MPX
  • 2.3 SIG-Sauer MPX Copperhead
• 3 Carbines
  • 3.1 TTI SIG-Sauer MPX Carbine
• 4 Shotguns
  • 4.1 Benelli M2 Super 90 (TTI M2 Ultimate 3 Gun Package)
  • 4.2 Benelli M4 Super 90
• 5 Other
  • 5.1 Smoke Grenades
  • 5.2 The Continental's Armory
  • 5.3 Poster Weapons
• 6 See Also

 

All you need to know about JW3 guns.

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/John_Wick:_Chapter_3_-_Parabellum

• 1 Handguns
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  • 1.3 Colt Model 1903 Pocket Hammerless

Just from the look of the muzzle, I'd venture and say that it's a 1908 because the muzzle diameter looks too big to be for the .32 Auto but more resembles the .380 Auto.

 

*) What’s up with the cylinder swap mcguyver gunsmithing he does at the beginning of the movie? Can someone more knowledgeable in old single actions think of a scenario where this would turn a useless gun into a functional one?

Most of that stuff sounds really stupid (I don't watch John Wick movies anyhow). But as far as the single action, what kind of gun? If you mean swapping cylinders in a cap and ball revolver, yes that's a legitimate way to reload.

View: https://youtu.be/WQuKXGOoqUc