I shot them both without hearing protection and .45 was definitely louder to "me". However as always YMMV . Also +1 on your 3.5 connector comment on a house gun and the importance of the loudness of the shot. Couldn't agree more.

I don't think you could go wrong with either. 17 or 21 would serve you well and keep your loved ones safe.

 

Hearing loss shouldn't be a priority in picking a SD platform. Hearing loss or significant damage comes from sustained decibel levels over an amount of time. A one time instance of a gunshot IS NOT a major risk factor in causing hearing loss. Shooting without protection for a sustained period IS a major risk.

 

The difference in any self defence cartridges is neglegable. So go with whatever you like.

But I did have a question.
Why not get another G19?
You are going to practice with your G19, RIGHT?
You are good with your G19, right?


The other thought is take your gun out of your holster and put it on the night stand every night.

 

:dunno: :rofl: :shocked: :upeyes:

 

Hearing loss shouldn't be a priority in picking a SD platform. Hearing loss or significant damage comes from sustained decibel levels over an amount of time. A one time instance of a gunshot IS NOT a major risk factor in causing hearing loss. Shooting without protection for a sustained period IS a major risk.

My doctor indicated any exposure creates irrecoverable hearing loss. :dunno:

 

How many times did ya hit it?

:supergrin: 4 times, but I was shooting double action at about 50-60ft. It was one bloody mess ill tell you that much.
I used my HD ammo, Federal Hydroshock. uking:

 

I have kinda bad hearing as it is, and I've often thought about what the long term hearing impact would be if I had to fire in my house or in a vehicle (which would probably suck even more). The conclusion that I've come to from talking to some friends that are cops and to my doctor is that any difference between the aforementioned service calibers is going to be negligible. Will you suffer hearing damage? Probably. Will it be permanent? It depends; no two people are the same and the human body can withstand and recover from massive amounts of punishment, so no one can tell you for certain. Will it matter which round you fired? Maybe you save a very small range of frequency by choosing one over the other, but not enough that it warrants making this the deciding factor. The good news is that these are all fine service calibers that, when used in a quality firearm with a quality load, will more than suffice in a self defense scenario. Hope this helps.

 

My doctor indicated any exposure creates irrecoverable hearing loss. :dunno:

Well that means that a number of people would be deaf after a rock concert.http://www.4hearingloss.com/archives/2006/12/gunshots_hearin.html

 

Well that means that a number of people would be deaf after a rock concert.http://www.4hearingloss.com/archives/2006/12/gunshots_hearin.html

No one will be deaf after one concert but it definitely causes permanent damage that is cumulative with future insults to the inner ear.

 

No one will be deaf after one concert but it definitely causes permanent damage that is cumulative with future insults to the inner ear.

I know MANY musicians that wear earplugs when they play live. There's a good reason for it.

 

No one will be deaf after one concert but it definitely causes permanent damage that is cumulative with future insults to the inner ear.

Yep, thanks for highlighting what I initially said. My response was to show that ONE incident has a relatively LOW chance of causing damage. Whereas repeated exposure causes damage over time.

 

I bet if you ask the intruder if he would wait a second for you to put in your ear plugs he'll be gone before you put the first one in.
In a SD situation yo'll never hear it. And the 45 is not as loud as the 9mm.

 

I bet if you ask the intruder if he would wait a second for you to put in your ear plugs he'll be gone before you put the first one in.
In a SD situation yo'll never hear it. And the 45 is not as loud as the 9mm.

This man is on to something.

 

Those of us with shotguns are completely screwed.

 

Those of us with shotguns are completely screwed.

:rofl: Well ringing ears is better than being dead. 12 g without ear protection isnt too bad, just don't make a habit of it

 

If you want loud, try 10mm, 357Sig, or 7.65x25 to name a few. :supergrin:

Yea. This too:

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Those of us with shotguns are completely screwed.

Mac, I've been wearing low profile muffs for years shooting trap.

Now I bet this was LOUD.

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Those of us with shotguns are completely screwed.

or.... if you have a 10mm..... everyone within a 10 mile radius will go deaf.

 

.45 ACP is subsonic - i.e. it doesn't break the sound barrier

9mm/357sig/10mm/etc. all have a MUCH louder "crack" which is the point they break the sound barrier.

.22LR 134.0 dB
.25 ACP 155.0 dB
.32 LONG 152.4 dB
.32 ACP 153.5 dB
.380 157.7 dB
9mm 159.8 dB
.38 S&W 153.5 dB
.38 Spl 156.3 dB
.357 Magnum 164.3 dB
.41 Magnum 163.2 dB
.44 Spl 155.9 dB
.45 ACP 157.0 dB
.45 COLT 154.7 dB

Keep in mind an increase of only 3 dB is double the sound energy. You can see above how the supersonic rounds have a nice 3+ dB increase over the subsonic ones. And .357Mag ... OUCH!

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10686358

 

Haha.. had to edit cause i found the same thing. On a different note, I fired an SKS a few weeks ago in the woods (no plugs) and my ears rang for a week.

 

This thread has made me reconsider the (in my mind pointless) .50 GI.

As far as noise goes, shouldn't that be about ideal as far as moderate-power handguns go?

 

honestly i dont think the G21 is louder. ive shot the G19, G21 and my .38 special and out of all of them, the .38 was the loudest. the G19 and G21 were almost identical.

so no, i dont think the .45 will be louder than the 9mm. take it that i did shoot with ear protection, so it did muff the sound a bit.

 

I bet if you ask the intruder if he would wait a second for you to put in your ear plugs he'll be gone before you put the first one in.

That's retarded and you know it. 1st, electronic muffs are the way to go. Fast to put on and it's not like an intruder knows EXACTLY where your bedroom is and is making a beeline for it.

2nd, oh no! He escaped before you had a chance to shoot him! That just ruins your evening, eh?

 

:notlistening: or just buy a stamp and put a Suppressor on it!

 

Mac, I've been wearing low profile muffs for years shooting trap.

Now I bet this was LOUD.

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That's always a great pic.