[bikerdog]

Take a look at this operation...
http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?73808-New-slide-milling-option

That is fricking awesome.

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[bikerdog]

If we are gonna be all technical about who did what to whom, lets get down to the source fo this stuff.

HERES what happened for those who care to find the real source of the milled in RDS...

Housel graduated gunsmith school a couple years ago and went to work with Suarez. Some members showed off thier RDS milled slides done by Bowie Tactical's Dave bowie who's been doing them for 5 years or more and has refined the whole process over the years.
Suarez and Housel MINED bowie for technical information on how to do the process then dumped him and started offering the whole RDS milled thing as if it was their own creation. No surprise then that Suarez would dump Housel at a later date once he had gotten things at TSD dialed in and no longer was needed. Now TSD simply subcontracts out all their "products" to some local machinist and does nothing but marketing and sales to be truthful. they really dont actually produce anything at TSD they broker things.

SO.... if you REALLY want to go to the guy who has done ALL sorts of guns (not just glock 17's) and knows a thing or two about milling these things in and configuring them, has shot them extensively and trained with them and trained OTHER in thier use and will do the work for you himself... Give Bowie Tactical a call.

If on the other hand you want to work with a company with a LONG history of "partnerships" where Suarez gains the knowledge and expertise form another party then dumps them and moves on to the next "best" thing, then maybe give TSD a call. I'm sure Gabe Suarez and his "empire" will thank you.

Thank you for posting this. I have a TSD glock 17 that i love but i have been on warriortalk a lot latley and have been really put of what gabe says about david bowie on their. And this explains why. I love having an RMR on my handgun and love my TSD G17 but is this is true i will not be using TSD again.

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[bikerdog]

Yes, good information.

TSD does seem to have a pretty high opinion of their products. They get away with a pretty impressive markup on stuff they sell.

One thing I don't like about the Bowie setup is having the rear sight in front of the red dot. It just doesn't make sense in my mind to mill through the existing sight dovetail, then cut a new one, instead of just putting the red dot in front of the rear sight. Of course the Leopold sight has the adjustments on the rear, but I saw a picture of this setup with a couple holes milled through the rear sight for adjustments, so even that's not a good reason.

He offers both the setup you are talking about. But also offers it the other way with the rear site behind the redot. Also from looking at his web page it looks like the sites behind the redot are cheaper to mill

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[bikerdog]

Well that's stupid. You'd think they would have made it so the same action switches it in and out of auto mode. I had assumed this, but didn't think to try it before buying it. Hmmm. Not sure if it'll be a problem or not, we'll see. I did notice it took some effort to push the buttons.

This is not an issue at all if you are using a holster that covers the rmr. If you are using one that is not covering the rmr. The buttons can be hit which could cause the dot to be very dim when you pull the gun from the holster.

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