[Borg Warner]

The whole reason for those awful front magazine cut-outs in the Gen 5 Glocks is supposedly in case a magazine got stuck, like jammed really tight, and it would allow you to grab on to more of the baseplate to free it from the gun.

I used to think that the reason they originally had the cutout was because the first magazines were not drop free, but I've been told that it was in case a magazine got stuck. And apparently at some point Glock decided that it wasn't needed any more and discontinued it, but then the FBI requested it and they put it on the FBI guns and then they once again though it was a really cool feature and incorporated it into the Gen 5's and now we're stuck with it again.

I've never had a magazine get stuck in either of my Glocks, but I'm a former 1911 guy and have only been shooting Glocks for about 5 years. Oh, and by the way, I never had a magazine get stuck in a 1911 and don't think anyone else ever did either and I've never even HEARD of a Glock magazine ever getting stuck in the gun or any other kind of magazine in any other gun either.

So what I want to know is, has anyone ever had this happen, or seen this happen or even heard of this happening? or has anyone ever heard a story about a guy who had a magazine get stuck in a Gen 1 or 2 gun and how if it hadn't been for the cut-outs front and rear, allowing a really GOOD thumb-and-finger grip on the sucker, he would have never got the mag unstuck?

I think if I ever had a magazine get stuck, that the baseplate is actually thick enough that you can grip it pretty good. And for tha matter, what if they just made the baseplate wider and a little thicker so you could get a better grip on it? That way those baseplates could just be option for people who worried about stuck magazines. Or they could just make cut outs on the sides of the grips like other manufactures have done.

So how about it? Let's hear all those stuck magazine war stories.

 

[9x45]

never in 26 years of running Glocks in competition or carry. Unless you put it in backwards...

 

[jr24]

Ain't been 26 years for me, but I've never had any issue.

 

[Lt. Donn]

The reason for the cut-out is not because of a "stuck" mag...it was designed to allow you to strip a "jammed" mag when you have a Failure to Extract malfunction and the mag is "jammed" in the well by the top-round pressing against the non-extracted case or round...with that type malfunction AKA "Double Feed", you can depress the mag release all you want, but the mag will not fall free...you must "strip" it forcefully from the mag-well, as a part of an Immediate Action Drill...the cut-outs are for that...and that is why my agency did not allow the troops to use those "plugs" in the rear of the grip...this was of particular concern before Glock upgraded to the newer base plates which are more secure...the older style used with the "U" notch mags were prone to being pulled off the mag base while performing this malfunction drill if grasped from the sides rather than from front to rear...I do not believe the newer style mags have these issues

 

[Pepiot]

No, no and no.

 

[sciolist]

Yes.

 

[Buckshot Barry]

Yes, the ONLY malfunction I've ever had under the clock with a stock Glock.

2006 shooting IDPA with a 2005 G17 Gen 3, unmodified except for OEM extended mag release and OEM extended slide stop lever. Ammunition was 115 grain WWB.

About half way through the mag I had a failure to feed. This was after about 2,000 rounds through the 17. The magazine would not drop, the slide would not retract or go forward. The nose of the bullet was jammed between the chamber and slide.

This Gen 3 has the front cut out for emergency mag removal like the new Gen 5's. Had to use it and literally rip the mag out while under the clock.

I had a very bad habit of only cleaning this 17 with a bore snake. The feed ramp was filthy. Never again.

 

[Old Buzzard 74]

Only when doing double feed malfunction drills. I wouldn't really call them stuck, but they in there good enough that I need to stick my thumb in the back strap hole to pull them out reliably on my gen4's.

 

[Berto]

The reason for the cut-out is not because of a "stuck" mag...it was designed to allow you to strip a "jammed" mag when you have a Failure to Extract malfunction and the mag is "jammed" in the well by the top-round pressing against the non-extracted case or round...with that type malfunction AKA "Double Feed", you can depress the mag release all you want, but the mag will not fall free...you must "strip" it forcefully from the mag-well, as a part of an Immediate Action Drill...the cut-outs are for that...and that is why my agency did not allow the troops to use those "plugs" in the rear of the grip...this was of particular concern before Glock upgraded to the newer base plates which are more secure...the older style used with the "U" notch mags were prone to being pulled off the mag base while performing this malfunction drill if grasped from the sides rather than from front to rear...I do not believe the newer style mags have these issues

Yes

 

[DienBienPhu]

I could see this happening if you were carrying a GLOCK in sub zero conditions, the magazine could get frozen / stuck from ice if the user was in a harsh cold environment like in CANADA or back east where they have blizzards, while riding a snow mobile your pistol would get exposure to those types of conditions.

or possible get jammed from falling in a sand pit or something sand could cause a mag to get stuck

 

[rfd339]

Own glocks since 2003. Never had one stuck in any firearm a matter of fact. Service, security and civilian life to add.
My M&P 2.0 5in fde has the cut outs on the sides which I like btw.

 

[Rusty Guns]

It was my impression, that the front and rear frame notches were for the Non Drop Free mags in the older Original Gen1 pistols. And they stayed till the Drop-Free mags were the norm, and no longer needed.
Yep Just Shows To Go Ya, learn something new every day.
That's my story and I'm stickin to it.
I just don't remember which one it was. Lol

 

[cadillacguns]

Yes I put one in backwards (ONCE), and slap seated it home, it was stuck good, glad it was not a street situation, I had to remove the slide, take a hammer and dowel to get it out.
It was a 2nd gen G-19.
Lesson Learned!

 

[ChillyB]

Failure to extract (extractor jumped the rim, next round pinched firmly between slide and empty case still in chamber). Fixed it.

 

[Glockdude1]

Own glocks since 2003. Never had one stuck in any firearm a matter of fact. Service, security and civilian life to add.
My M&P 2.0 5in fde has the cut outs on the sides which I like btw.

:agree:

I removed the safety on mine. I like it much better.

 

[Rocky7]

My past experiences allowed me Not to address a mag put in backwards. Competition was usually during weather that was 30 degrees or warmer.

I would have to say the above does not suggest it will not or could not happen because it does and has.

The solution suggests some find it aesthetically displeasing and or a discomfort in grip. I can only ponder further changes that may come.

 

[rfd339]

:agree:

I removed the safety on mine. I like it much better.

Same here. Good shooting M&P. I really like mine.

 

[cadillacguns]

Stuff happens, I had never done it before, and have never done it since, but that day it was like those folks in WACO, aint coming out........I pulled and pulled, but eventualy took the slide off, put a wooden dowel onto the top of the mag and tapped with the flat side of a hammer and out it came. Looked it over, no worse for the wear, again, lesson learned.

 

[PattonWasRight]

Yes, once

When Freedom Munitions made their "stepped" brass it broke off inside the chamber and the next round was partially fed in, partially not

Had to yank on the mag a couple times with force to work it free

 

[GlockyQ]

Yes, while using those old “Pre-ban” non-dropfree magazines in my G19....