hey every one I searched glock talk to see if anyone ells had a question about this. I couldnt find it so now im posting a thread. is the Gun magnet is it safe ? like if I had it under a desk with loaded +1 I know the springs would be pulled by the magnet. I dont know I want to see what other people think about this and if they think its safe
Gun magnet is it safe ?????
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hey every one I searched glock talk to see if anyone ells had a question about this. I couldnt find it so now im posting a thread. is the Gun magnet is it safe ? like if I had it under a desk with loaded +1 I know the springs would be pulled by the magnet. I dont know I want to see what other people think about this and if they think its safe
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i would think so, the firing pin can not strike the firing cap without the plunger being in the right position.
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im no expert.. but thats the way i see it.. anyone else??
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im no expert.. but thats the way i see it.. anyone else??
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no problem..
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I don't think there could be any issues using a gun magnet.
First the magnet may exert for on a spring, firing pin, or any other part. The key is the force would have to be able to either make the gun fire (in essence bypass all the safety mechanisms) or move the firing pin forward with enough force to fire off the chambered round (taking into consideration there is no firing pin safety preventing such forward movement).
With Glocks you have the firing pin safety which is only disengaged when pulling the trigger. This means the magnet would have to be powerful enough to either lift the firing pin safety plunger or pull the trigger bar back. The first scenario in of itself isn't going to cause the gun to fire and the second scenario is unlikely as the magnet would have to exert the same force in pounds as you do pulling the trigger. That's a lot.
I personally wouldn't worry about it at all.
First the magnet may exert for on a spring, firing pin, or any other part. The key is the force would have to be able to either make the gun fire (in essence bypass all the safety mechanisms) or move the firing pin forward with enough force to fire off the chambered round (taking into consideration there is no firing pin safety preventing such forward movement).
With Glocks you have the firing pin safety which is only disengaged when pulling the trigger. This means the magnet would have to be powerful enough to either lift the firing pin safety plunger or pull the trigger bar back. The first scenario in of itself isn't going to cause the gun to fire and the second scenario is unlikely as the magnet would have to exert the same force in pounds as you do pulling the trigger. That's a lot.
I personally wouldn't worry about it at all.
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i seriously doubt the magnet is strong enough to disengage any mechanical safety, if it were, its unlikely you'd be able to remove the gun from the magnet. I'd only be worried about scratching the finish, unless the magnet has some sort of fabric coating to avoid that.
It would have to disable all the safeties. I don't see that happening. there are some possible issues.
1. I am not sure, but it may affect things if you try to fire it with it attached to the magnet. So having it under a desk, pointing and ready to just pull the trigger might not be a good idea. There would also be no place for the recoil to go.
2. Using it as a car mount when driving. I doubt the magnet is strong enough to hold the weapon secure in case of an accident. So if something did happen, your weapon would be rolling around your car like a hammer. If you want to pistol whip yourself, go ahead and give it a try. Even worse would be if the trigger snagged something. (unlikely, but possible) If you are going to permanently mount something to your car, may as well make it a holster in a good location. (The original question was about desks, but their video showed many car mounts and wanted to throw this out for people researching gun magnets. Sorry if it is a little off topic)
3. If the magnet is strong enough to magnetize the bullets, the bullets will probably bend and hit the guy in his belt buckle, cell phone, flask, pocket knife, or any other metal things and render the shots mostly worthless.
ok, i wanted a 3rd item and couldn't think of one, so I decided to amuse myself..... :rofl: and it worked
*** I googled gun magnet and found this, this design is what i am basing my observations on. I also watched their video at the bottom. http://quickdrawgunmagnets.com/
1. I am not sure, but it may affect things if you try to fire it with it attached to the magnet. So having it under a desk, pointing and ready to just pull the trigger might not be a good idea. There would also be no place for the recoil to go.
2. Using it as a car mount when driving. I doubt the magnet is strong enough to hold the weapon secure in case of an accident. So if something did happen, your weapon would be rolling around your car like a hammer. If you want to pistol whip yourself, go ahead and give it a try. Even worse would be if the trigger snagged something. (unlikely, but possible) If you are going to permanently mount something to your car, may as well make it a holster in a good location. (The original question was about desks, but their video showed many car mounts and wanted to throw this out for people researching gun magnets. Sorry if it is a little off topic)
3. If the magnet is strong enough to magnetize the bullets, the bullets will probably bend and hit the guy in his belt buckle, cell phone, flask, pocket knife, or any other metal things and render the shots mostly worthless.
ok, i wanted a 3rd item and couldn't think of one, so I decided to amuse myself..... :rofl: and it worked
*** I googled gun magnet and found this, this design is what i am basing my observations on. I also watched their video at the bottom. http://quickdrawgunmagnets.com/
I just went and watched the video in the link that RBL posted and I think I may have to call BS on their video. They show AR's and shotguns mounted to it in a vertical position. I'm thinking a 10-15mph hit on a speed bump or pothole may be sufficient enough to break the hold of the magnet. Even taking a turn too quick may wind up breaking the hold.
If you mount your gun under the dash the way they showed it seems like if you had to jam your brakes it would just slide off the magnet. 10lbs of holding strength for a magnet just doesn't seem like very much once you get the laws of physics and inertia involved.
I also love how they show the pick of a Glock attached by the end of the barrel. A quick brake check and your Glock is probably headed towards your windshield.
Plus I find it funny how their video is nothing but photos instead of the video footage of the actual product in use.
If you mount your gun under the dash the way they showed it seems like if you had to jam your brakes it would just slide off the magnet. 10lbs of holding strength for a magnet just doesn't seem like very much once you get the laws of physics and inertia involved.
I also love how they show the pick of a Glock attached by the end of the barrel. A quick brake check and your Glock is probably headed towards your windshield.
Plus I find it funny how their video is nothing but photos instead of the video footage of the actual product in use.
Why don't you get a Serpa holster. You can put it (attach it) anywhere and it is a secure way to hold the gun without any risk for damage.
http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Holsters,16.htm
http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Holsters,16.htm
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forgot to include that in my response.... seems like for a desk it would work fine.... i had to call BS on the photos of the vehicle uses....
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No, it won't hurt your weapon in any way...save for the possibility of the magnet scratching the finish / polymer.
Even if it does somehow impart some kind of magnetism to the ferrous components of a firearm...the strength of that transferred magnetism might be strong enough to pick up a good-sized paper clip and that's about it.
"But what about steel cased ammo?", you may ask?
What about it? The forces generated in the loading/chambering and subsequent firing/ejection of a cartridge/case are rather large. Several times stronger than what's needed to overcome any potential transferred magnetism.
Just about the only scenario that I can come up with where it might be a hindrance is if your weapon is ever in an environment where there are plenty of "free" ferrous particles floating or flying around that COULD potentially maybe if the ozone layer and planets are aligned possibly somehow collect in the firearm to cause a malfunction. Good luck getting that to happen, though.
As other posters have said, though, magnets to hold anything secure in a vehicle is a pipe dream. Unless you have a very strong magnet...which then defeats the purpose because you'd not be able to utilize said weapon if you had to.
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Even if it does somehow impart some kind of magnetism to the ferrous components of a firearm...the strength of that transferred magnetism might be strong enough to pick up a good-sized paper clip and that's about it.
"But what about steel cased ammo?", you may ask?
What about it? The forces generated in the loading/chambering and subsequent firing/ejection of a cartridge/case are rather large. Several times stronger than what's needed to overcome any potential transferred magnetism.
Just about the only scenario that I can come up with where it might be a hindrance is if your weapon is ever in an environment where there are plenty of "free" ferrous particles floating or flying around that COULD potentially maybe if the ozone layer and planets are aligned possibly somehow collect in the firearm to cause a malfunction. Good luck getting that to happen, though.
As other posters have said, though, magnets to hold anything secure in a vehicle is a pipe dream. Unless you have a very strong magnet...which then defeats the purpose because you'd not be able to utilize said weapon if you had to.
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I don't know if I would store a Glock with one in the pipe hanging around the house with an open trigger guard. I don't have any kids at my house but if anyone stumbles upon it they could do something unsafe pretty easily. I like to have my Glocks in holsters unless it's the one in my nightstand.
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There is no way the magnet is anywhere near powerful enough to have any effect on the firing pin spring, rounds (steel case or not), or mag spring.
Even with all safeties removed/disabled, nothing would happen. You're just nowhere near the force it would take.
Also, if you're able to pull the pistol off the magnet, a car accident is certainly enough to send it flying. You can easily hit 10-20 Gs in an accident, so it would be as if the gun weighed 10-20 times as much.
Even with all safeties removed/disabled, nothing would happen. You're just nowhere near the force it would take.
Also, if you're able to pull the pistol off the magnet, a car accident is certainly enough to send it flying. You can easily hit 10-20 Gs in an accident, so it would be as if the gun weighed 10-20 times as much.
I've got an XDSC under the table as I write this. Everything works fine and I always know exactly where my home protections is.
Here's a tip... Go to Harbor Freight and get a round flat magnet. They cost about 5 bucks or less. You can epoxy it to the area you want to mount. There's no need to spend all that extra money for a specific gun magnet.
Here's a tip... Go to Harbor Freight and get a round flat magnet. They cost about 5 bucks or less. You can epoxy it to the area you want to mount. There's no need to spend all that extra money for a specific gun magnet.
How did you get that cut away model of a Glock? Did you have that custom done.This magnet holds the gun quite securely and the FP safety doesn't budge.
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No wonder you seem to know more about all this than anyone, you can see all the mechanics work as you cycle the slide.
Always impressed, thanks again Butch!
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