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Going to try shooting at clay pigeons tomorrow. No idea what I'm doing.

5.3K views 121 replies 48 participants last post by  pAZ Ron  
#1 ·
A buddy of mine has been pestering me for months about going to his gun club and doing a Sunday shoot. I have no idea if it is skeet, or trap, or whatever. I tried looking up the differences but it was all very confusing.

All I know about those sort of shooting events is that they are attended by rich people in expensive SUVs and pickups who shoot fancy O/U shotguns, wear shooting vests and amber-tinted glasses, and give the impression that they don't approve of "plastic" guns.

At least that's the impression I got when I was at the Ben Avery Range in Phoenix for my BPCR matches and had to drive past the skeet shooting range.

Probably very different at this little range in rural Idaho.

I still have no idea what to expect as the announcement on Facebook is vague...

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I have no idea which event I'm trying.

My only goal is to not embarrass myself and meet fellow gun enthusiasts. I haven't bird hunted for decades, and have only fired the shotgun I'm bringing once.

I stopped by the only LGS in the area and picked up two boxes of Winchester Super Trap 12ga 7.5 shot. I also bought a pouch thing for shells that says it is for trap shooting. I wanted to buy a shooting vest, but they didn't have any. The clerk remarked that they got lots of complaints about not selling them earlier this year during bird season. And yet they still don't sell them...

I inherited a few shotguns from my father this year. The one I chose to use tomorrow is a custom Ruger Red Label O/U 12ga that he gave me for Christmas a couple of years ago. I took it out and shot it back then and was amazed at how well it pointed for me. LOP is a little short, but perfect with my Carhart jacket on. Weather is supposed to be around 40 degrees and light rain. I don't think I will be ashamed to show up with the Ruger...

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I am not good with shotguns and birds. I simply have no experience with them. I'm an excellent shot with rifles and pistols, but shooting at moving targets is way different. I'm sure I will get peppered with advice tomorrow on how to aim.

Wondering if anyone here has experience with trap/clay/skeet shooting and where to aim to hit the clays.

As long as I don't pull a Dick Cheney, I'll be happy.
 
#4 ·
And be prepared with a variety of chokes. If it’s skeet, you need an open choke, either one specifically labeled skeet or at least improved cylinder. If it’s trap you want either full or improved modified.

If it’s sporting clays, you actually need them all, but I assume most probably split the difference and go with modified.
 
#11 ·
Events 1, 2, and 3 are standard ATA Trap events, see post #8. Targets are generally going away but at unpredictable angles.

No. 1 is Singles shot from the front of the grid 16 yards behind the trap house, normally 5 from each position, so two rounds of 25. This is the one you should start on with your two boxes of shells. If you have screw chokes, put the Modified in the bottom barrel of your OU, that is all you will use. If fixed chokes, use the Modified barrel.

A squad of 5 will put somebody at each position on the grid.
The shooter on post 1 on the left is the squad leader, he starts off. He loads ONE SHELL, shoulders the gun pointed somewhere on the left side of the trap house, and calls PULL! He tracks the target, swings through, and fires.
The shooter on post 2 is next, he loads ONE SHELL, and shoots, then post 3, 4, and 5.

Back to post 1 and repeat until everybody has fired at 5 targets from their starting position, then move a place to the right - the shooter on post 5 walks behind the rest of the squad to post 1. The squad leader now on post 2 starts off.

This is Singles, one target, one shot at a time, one shell in the gun. Do not close your gun until it is your turn, move positions with the gun open.

No. 2 is Handicap, shot from farther back on the grid, 18 to 27 yards, distance depending on your ranking.
No. 3 is Doubles, two targets thrown simultaneously. Unlike Singles and Handicap, the angles are fixed, but you gotta be quick.

No. 4 is some sort of non-reg game.
 
#67 ·
Events 1, 2, and 3 are standard ATA Trap events, see post #8. Targets are generally going away but at unpredictable angles.

No. 1 is Singles shot from the front of the grid 16 yards behind the trap house, normally 5 from each position, so two rounds of 25. This is the one you should start on with your two boxes of shells. If you have screw chokes, put the Modified in the bottom barrel of your OU, that is all you will use. If fixed chokes, use the Modified barrel.

A squad of 5 will put somebody at each position on the grid.
The shooter on post 1 on the left is the squad leader, he starts off. He loads ONE SHELL, shoulders the gun pointed somewhere on the left side of the trap house, and calls PULL! He tracks the target, swings through, and fires.
The shooter on post 2 is next, he loads ONE SHELL, and shoots, then post 3, 4, and 5.

Back to post 1 and repeat until everybody has fired at 5 targets from their starting position, then move a place to the right - the shooter on post 5 walks behind the rest of the squad to post 1. The squad leader now on post 2 starts off.

This is Singles, one target, one shot at a time, one shell in the gun. Do not close your gun until it is your turn, move positions with the gun open.
After shooting and then going back and reading your post, it was exactly spot on! The squad leader was a young guy and super nice. He shot 22 the first round, then 25 the second.

I was told to load shells in the bottom barrel to reduce wear on the action, but that requires not only flipping off the safety, but moving the barrel selector. I thought it would be best to just shoot my first event as simply as possible, and I still forgot to take off the safety on the first shot. So, next event I will try using the bottom barrel.

I have a Winchester Model 21 16ga and a Browning A5 Sweet sixteen that I will be selling. Winchester is worth around $8k and the Browning only around $1500. Should be able to find a more suitable gun for around $3k.
 
#12 ·
Went on one last summer. My employer put it on. Went so far as to supplying shotguns and ammo. I'd never shot at a clay pigeon before then. Never held an O/U shotgun before.
I selected a beautiful 20 gauge. Silver pigeon maybe? Not sure. I want one is all I know.
Anyway I was popping clay pretty regularly by the end of the day.
And we all had a ball and that's what it's all about.
I'm sure you will too.
 
#13 ·
Tell everyone you are new.

Go where they say, shoot what they say to shoot.

Just try to have fun. So what if you miss a lot - I bet you will miss more if you are "trying" to hit things.

Chokes - does your shotgun have changeable chokes? I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't. It may be one barrel Full choke, the other one Improved Cylinder (or something similar).

You will probably get hooked!
 
#15 ·
👍 Nice beginner Gun.
You’ll look like a Pro,
When you’re shooting singles keep reloading that bottom barrel.

I wouldn’t tell anyone it’s your first time, you don’t need a ton of advice when you’re trying to feel relaxed and ready.

watch this video and you’ll be giving advice, lol.
Anxious to hear of your experience,👍

 
#30 ·
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I wouldn’t tell anyone it’s your first time, you don’t need a ton of advice when you’re trying to feel relaxed and ready.
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It's not about needing advice. Let the people running the shoot, especially the safety officers, know you are new. That way they can show you what to do, and hopefully catch you before you make a "leave the range" safety violation. Also prevents people from getting annoyed if you are taking a little longer than usual at the firing line.

I think it is a good thing to do.
 
#25 ·
Nesting pairs …… A little difficult for me but still a lot of fun!
Also, wait till they start rolling them on the ground . If you can master that then you should be able to get you some rabbits on the run. 😎
 
#23 ·
Agree with @Jim Watson, looks like trap. I coach a HS Trap team, so we have more issues with size and fit than with grown men. But the fundamentals are the same.

Starting out, look at the diagrams in Post #8. Higher hold is a shorter path to the gun, and you will break more birds. DON'T 1. Lift your head, 2. Stop the Swing 3. Look at the sights. From the positive perspective: Smooth path while being able to see the ridges of the clay target and follow through.
 
#24 ·
If you like this and want to get into it, spend some time learning to shoot with both eyes open.

It’s weird at first but it’s like learning to throw a ball where your 100% focused at a target while your subconscious is doing the calculus on how to hit a moving target. It works really well after you get past that learning curve.

if you carefully watch shooters it’s easy to see who’s trying to “rifle down” with one eye. As they swing through their eyes will go from the target to down the barrel(like they are aiming). This causes their swing to slow down and sometimes stop. You will miss a lot doing this, and it’s a bad habit. You’ll shoot your best with both eyes locked on the target but there is a learning curve to it.
 
#27 ·
Hard to believe they would start you on trap, that can be pretty advanced.

More likely you will shoot skeet or clays, with skeet being the best of the 3 for beginners IMO. 8 shooting stations with the left target high and dropping and the right low and rising.

The shotgun section at my old club was tolerated by the rifle guys and that's about it. I don't think they consider it real shooting but whatever.

That Ruger is perfect for skeet. If it has chokes, bring them.

For skeet you want open or IC chokes, the other games are at longer ranges so you want to tighten up.

Yes, shoot where the target will be and not where it is, not so easy but once you get the hang of it skeet becomes boring. The classic miss is behind the target and the classic reason is stopping your barrel to watch the shot. Keep it swinging through....just have fun on station 8 especially and report back...
 
#31 ·
Hard to believe they would start you on trap, that can be pretty advanced.

More likely you will shoot skeet or clays,
The program is clearly for Trap.

Col. Charles Askins was an all around shooter, best known for pistol and his .22 centerfire rooneygun, but a shotgunner too. He said he could teach the basics of trap quicker but he could train GOOD skeet shooting sooner.
 
#29 ·
All I know about those sort of shooting events is that they are attended by rich people in expensive SUVs and pickups who shoot fancy O/U shotguns, wear shooting vests and amber-tinted glasses, and give the impression that they don't approve of "plastic" guns.
Sigh. You couldn't be more wrong.