[Will Beararms]

Dang, this will have a huge effect on me. No, no it won't.

I’m despondent; a broken man.

 

[Will Beararms]

The COA Glocks maybe great , but not a fan of a mini TV set sitting on my pistol.

💯

 

[Will Beararms]

Thanks for all the replies!
Since I can’t shoot a pistol anywhere but an indoor range here in Belgium, I’m thinking there’s not much point in going for a fully enclosed dot.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but with the Aimpoint cut you’re basically locked into that dot for the future, right?
Whereas with the SCS or MOS setup, I could just swap in whatever new optic comes out, even 10 years down the line.
My next Glock will be a 19 with a dot: go MOS and pick any dot I want, or just get a COA from the start? Btw, I like shooting at 25 m (a bit over 25 yds), is 3.5 MOA too big for that distance? And for once, we’re actually better off in Europe when it comes to guns — we don’t have those weird restrictions like in the US (e.g., the 17 MOS being LE-only,...).

Well, you’re better off than most people in Europe ———- if you can own a pistol in the first place.

 

[Will Beararms]

Aimpoint may have to catch up , the German Army just ordered like 120,000 CZ P10Fs I believe with installed Aimpoint enclosed emitter dots . Probably not all in one batch but they can only crank out so many so fast

Military contracts get preference

The German Army with CZ 10PF’s? Very interesting.

 

[Will Beararms]

Here we go again. This may be new to you, but you can own a pistol in about all of Europe (not counting the UK who never wanted to be part of it anyway 😁). And gun owners in the more liberal EU countries are better off than in a lot of US states.

Agreed with caveats. The People’s Republic of New York, Commiefornia and Beillinoisjing are run by Marxists. Here in Arkansas, we have Constitutional Carry ergo, if you don’t a criminal record or have not been adjudicated as mentally defective, you can carry a concealed handgun without a CHL. I keep mine current for one reason. If I buy a new firearm, all I do is complete and sign the BATF From 4473 and walk out the door. There is no NICS instant background check.

 

[Will Beararms]

“Quantify” as in “formula and statistics” ? No. But from what little scientific background I have, I’d wager that the screws on the COA suffer less from the recoil force (and especially the direction) than the ones on the SCS. FWIW, I have both, and the COA “feels” more like a part of the gun, while I find myself checking the SCS as something that was just bolted on. But no issues yet with either optic.

I am not a fan of small fasteners on a pistol slide and violent impact forces based upon spending years working as a salesperson for a competitor to Loctite. I’d like to see an optic housing integral to the slide and the optic would into said housing and then be secured with screws and gaskets. A union with one optic maker or standardization would be required for this to be viable nonetheless. For now, I will stay with my irons. If I ever do go with a current MOS, it won’t be with something the size of a Mini-Television.

 

[Will Beararms]

And agree that in most of Europe, owning and using guns requires some kind of red tape. On the other hand, in my little country it's still possible to own a machine gun for the same amount of paperwork amd money as a Glock, and since we're not limited to a finite number of pro-1986 weapons, they are usually pretty cheap too... ETA my local shop recently sold a 1940 Thompson with both the drum and stick mag for about 2500 USD. FALs and AK variants usually run under a grand since there's so many of them around.

And……the beer and wine from your part of the world is much better than the mass-produced garbage we have here!!!