They shoot, but won’t cycle the slide. You have to hand cycle each shot.


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I have used the 9mm snek loads with limited success...there are not an abundance of pellets in the 9 mil...now if you are using the 10 mm the 40 s/w snake loads have many more pellets, but will not cycle the slide...I have not seen any 10mm snake loads, but those would be ideal...what I have done to test: Take a sheet of copy paper and draw the size of coiled snake you are likely to encounter in your region...step back where you would be outside striking range...aim at he head and fire...you will get a good idea what the load will do (pattern) on your "Snek"

 

Also, upgrade to Big 4 shot shells (with red capsules). The bigger #4 shot does much better than that lightweight #9 stuff.




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Also, upgrade to Big 4 shot shells (with red capsules). The bigger #4 shot does much better than that lightweight #9 stuff.




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I also use the #4 loads. I keep some in my 38 snubby and the shot pattern is lethal even at 5+feet. Gets em every time.

 

I have used .38 and out of a 4” barrel and the pattern was great. That may give me a reason to buy a 4” or 6” 357 to carry early season.

 

Years ago I shot a snake with hand loaded shot in a .38 case, fired from my 6" S&W 19. I found the blue shot capsule in the snake's head.

 

Seems to me if you are close enough to a snake to consider shooting it with a handgun, any old round will do. Most of us can hit a 2 inch target at 10 feet right?

 

Seems like you never ran into a Rattlesnake or a Copperhead in the woods.

 

I carry a Charter snubby with shot rounds , while mowing and such .. Just for snakes ..
3 this spring...

 

They's sneks and they's sneks! We talking a northern timber rattler or a Florida 10 foot long boa?

 

My G19.5 shot 3 from mag in the low 9 shot rounds and chambered and fired just fine. Just found the Big Shot 4's and now keep a mag in the drawer with 6 in it just for snakes. Betting the 4 will do a much better job.

 

If you want snake shot loads, stick with the revolver, as none of the autos will cycle them too well....

 

Use the CCI in .40S&W in a Glock 23. They will cycle just fine and feed, extract and eject like you want them to.

 

9 mm is all I've tried, so far. The only Glock that I can reliably fire a full magazine of snake shot from is my Glock 26 Gen 4. They won't feed right in my Glock 43 and end up just breaking the plastic cap. I want to try the .45 version in my 30, just haven't gotten around to it yet.

 

Back to my question, does anyone know of a snake load that works in a Glock?

That's NOT the question you WERE asking, which was about a G20 and 10mm. Where are you going to find any 10mm shot shells? I'm not aware of ANY commercial source.

The closest commercial ammo is 40SW, and CCI has a 40SW #9 shot shell with claims of dispatching its 88 gr shot load at 1250 fps. That's a total muzzle energy of 305 ft-lbf. Unfortunately, ME is NOT what cycles a recoil-operated auto-pistol. Bullet muzzle momentum is THE important quantity, because equal momentum is imparted in the opposite direction to the slide to establish sufficient slide recoil velocity relative to the frame to generate full slide rearward travel.

We shooters talk bullet momentum all the time, but we call it POWER FACTOR, equal to bullet weight in grains times muzzle velocity in fps divided by 1000.

The PF for the above 40SW shotshell is 110, much higher than most other shotshell rounds. If any shotshell is going to work, this would seem to have the best chance. BUT...that's the same PF created by a 180 gr bullet leaving your G20 at 610 fps. Only a fool would have much trust in the reliable cycling of a G20 when it is firing such low PF ammo.

Some claim faith in reliability for a G19 firing shotshell. That faith is misplaced. CCI's heaviest 9mm #12 shot load of 53 gr at 1450 fps yields PF=77 (the same PF of a 124 gr bullet leaving a G19 at 620 fps).

For 45ACP shotshells things look only a little better. CCI's 45ACP #9 shot load of 120 gr at 1100 fps yields PF=132 (the same PF of a 230 gr bullet leaving a G21 at 575 fps).

A wise man would distrust his Glock's reliability firing any of the above loads, shotshell or solid. Will some Glocks cycle while firing shotshell rounds? Of course, especially if the RSA is weak. But every successful shot exercises the pistol at the extreme end of the minimum bullet momentum envelope.

The answer to the OP is damned simple because he has NO choice... 10mm shotshells do not seem to be commercially available from any well-known source unless he kludges with 40SW in a G20. Noone who is wise should expect shotshells to work reliably in ANY Glock. For outdoor use, forget Glock and all other recoil-operated auto-pistols. Get a revolver.

After a trial of several years, I abandoned my G31 as an outdoor and camp weapon. I returned to a Ruger GP100 in 357MAG. It will always with perfect reliability and certainty fire a chamber with shotshell next to a chamber with 200 ft-lbf 38SPL next to a chamber with 800 ft-lbf 357MAG. Revolvers are KINGS for serious purposes in the outdoors. Auto-pistols are only the JESTERS.

 

That's NOT the question you WERE asking, which was about a G20 and 10mm. Where are you going to find any 10mm shot shells? I'm not aware of ANY commercial source.

The closest commercial ammo is 40SW, and CCI has a 40SW #9 shot shell with claims of dispatching its 88 gr shot load at 1250 fps. That's a total muzzle energy of 305 ft-lbf. Unfortunately, ME is NOT what cycles a recoil-operated auto-pistol. Bullet muzzle momentum is THE important quantity, because equal momentum is imparted in the opposite direction to the slide to establish sufficient slide recoil velocity relative to the frame to generate full slide rearward travel.

We shooters talk bullet momentum all the time, but we call it POWER FACTOR, equal to bullet weight in grains times muzzle velocity in fps divided by 1000.

The PF for the above 40SW shotshell is 110, much higher than most other shotshell rounds. If any shotshell is going to work, this would seem to have the best chance. BUT...that's the same PF created by a 180 gr bullet leaving your G20 at 610 fps. Only a fool would have much trust in the reliable cycling of a G20 when it is firing such low PF ammo.

Some claim faith in reliability for a G19 firing shotshell. That faith is misplaced. CCI's heaviest 9mm #12 shot load of 53 gr at 1450 fps yields PF=77 (the same PF of a 124 gr bullet leaving a G19 at 620 fps).

For 45ACP shotshells things look only a little better. CCI's 45ACP #9 shot load of 120 gr at 1100 fps yields PF=132 (the same PF of a 230 gr bullet leaving a G21 at 575 fps).

A wise man would distrust his Glock's reliability firing any of the above loads, shotshell or solid. Will some Glocks cycle while firing shotshell rounds? Of course, especially if the RSA is weak. But every successful shot exercises the pistol at the extreme end of the minimum bullet momentum envelope.

The answer to the OP is damned simple because he has NO choice... 10mm shotshells do not seem to be commercially available from any well

Actually, I asked about any snake loads working well in Glocks, I have quite a few Glocks to choose from. I only said I now carry a G20 while hunting. Maybe I should have stated that I have many Glocks to choose from on my original post.
Regardless, I am convinced a revolver is the way to go. I have been looking for a reason to buy a GP100. I had one years ago and sold it but always regretted that move.

 

If you want snake shot loads, stick with the revolver, as none of the autos will cycle them too well....

True. It's better to carry a dedicated snake gun. That's the one thing the Taurus Judge is good for, and that is snakes. I've tested the different shot loads in a number of different handguns to see how they patterned and the 44 mag and the 45 ACP are about the best with the 38/357 coming in 3rd place.* A G21 or G30 will probablu kill a snake but you may not get a fast second shot.

With a Taurus judge or a S&W governor, the first shot should do it and if not, you can keep blasting until the snake is dead. But a 410 even out of a pistol isw WAY more effective than any handgun shot load.

22 LR "snake" loads do NOT kill snakes. I shot a rattlesnake 3 times with a 9 shot revolver and luckily the other six chambers were 22 hollowpoints and that's what it took to finish the poor critter off.

* I only tested the standard 38/357 shot loads. Ther are now better 38/357 shot loads, the CCI Big 4 Shotshell, .357 Magnum / .38 Special, 81 Grain, #4 Shot.

 

I use to use 22 snake loads to kill spiders when I lived in Fla.

 

I hate spiders. I would rather use a Flame Thrower.

 

@Mr Meeseeks had a fantastic picture of a snake load and snake shot from a Glock.

 

You must have never been up close to a deadly snake in the woods, if you had you would understand you have no time for a precision aim.
Back to my question, does anyone know of a snake load that works in a Glock?

EXACTLY. Your response is dead on.

I know of no snake loads for glocks. But I never looked.

 

I never shot a snake with a "snake load" in my life.

Any load that will kill anything else will kill a snake. If you can't hit a snake at 5-6 feet you probably should take up golf or knitting.

 

I never shot a snake with a "snake load" in my life.

Location Indiana.

 

Some of us hunt snakes and eat them. If You blast a snake in half by exploding it with a magnum round, you’re not eating a good portion of it. If you pop one with some #4 shot, you just spit the bb’s on the plate while you’re chewing.


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Why would you shoot it anywhere but the head? Seems like a dumb idea to me.

My old neighbor got in a panic every time he saw a water snake and ran for his 410. He'd shoot a half dozen times at one snake and it would look like your ran it through a wood chipper, everywhere but the head.

 

Why would you shoot it anywhere but the head? Seems like a dumb idea to me.

Normally you wouldn’t, but you don’t always get a snakes all stretched out in the dirt. Often it’s coiled up, and a clean head shot isn’t there. Besides that, why make it difficult on yourself? A light shotshell makes an easy kill, which makes an easy meal. I don’t know anything about tanning a snake skin for a belt or hat band. So I’m not much in it for the trophy.



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You must have never been up close to a deadly snake in the woods, if you had you would understand you have no time for a precision aim.

I'm quite sure you aim the shotshells exactly as carefully as you would a solid round.

I don't get some of these responses. I have a resume of snake killing but I won't bore anyone with it.

Now if the snake is chasing you through the woods and you have to take snap shots over your shoulder as you run for your life, I understand a shot shell may work better.

 

I'm quite sure you aim the shotshells exactly as carefully as you would a solid round.

Apparently you never shot a shotshell either.

 

Neighbor Don turned the lights off on a pretty good sized Copperhead last week. He used CCI Snake loads in a Glock 22. It did the job. I saw pictures. It was pretty large!

Flash

 

A 410 will work better than any handgun "snake load".

 

I like your idea of the 410 better than "snake load" in a Glock or other pistol. BUT !!

The problem I see with it is that those who don't have the pistol shown or similar one, will not want to spend $500. or more on a 410 pistol.
Some derringers will shoot a 410 shell, but with a short barrel. They still cost around $300. for a really nice one. I would NOT want one nor would I spend that much for one.

Now what I might go for is a short 12ga pump shotgun. I could also use it at home for a doorstop gun. A good morning and good bye to you gun.
You can get one of the two short 12ga pump shot guns for around $300. a used one cheaper.The Mossberg 590 Shockwave 12ga or the Remington 870 Tac-14 12ga.
These short shotguns could easily be carried over the shoulder.

I have just talked myself into getting a short shotgun, as I live in the wood and saw a snake about 2 ft away from my English Springer about a week ago. I am glad I thought of the short shotgun.
You guys help generate thought, CHEERS.

 

I would say 410 would be best bet if carrying spec for snakes.

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The guy shooting snakes in the head from 20 yrds away....wonder who the world champion is amongst us in or humble internet home??

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Looks like we've found who is not.

 

Many years ago when I lived in Fla. and hunted hogs I did carry two guns. One was a 41 mag and the other a dedicated snake load gun which was a 4” 357 mag loaded with .38 CCI shotshells. It was a great snake rig in that it shot a pattern of about 5” at a few feet from my leg where it counts. Ten feet or more away was not a threat so I wouldn’t shoot if I was outhunting. I tried a snub but it seem that the capsule wouldn’t shatter out of the short barrel and would not make as good as a pattern.

 

Two 10mms that shoot shot shells, they will never
FTF and all the other crap I have had with my two
G20/3/4.

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I have drilled and tapped many of these
revolvers and mounted scopes on them
and shot them at 100 and 200 yards on
paper, all will do around three inches at 100.

They shoot shot loads just fine.

When we lived on a ranch in the mountains
of Idaho, my load rotation was,

first shot, a shot load,
second shot, 158 cast fn around 1050 fps,
rest of chambers, 187gr LBT FNGC from
1300 to over 1500fps, depending on
the gun,