Old baseplates depend on DF or NDF standard mags, no marking exceot GLOCK early NDF Mags. 455 stamped on the bottom latest gen NDF mags, 3206 marked on the bottom, gen 2/3 DF mags, current production mag baseplates are also unmarked but definatly different than the unmarked early ones, now about the loaders, 3 digit marked
4 8 3 early Glocks, 483-1 or 483-2 later produced Glocks.
Early (+) bases marked 1967, newer 7151.

 

Old baseplates depend on DF or NDF standard mags, no marking exceot GLOCK early NDF Mags. 455 stamped on the bottom latest gen NDF mags, 3206 marked on the bottom, gen 2/3 DF mags, current production mag baseplates are also unmarked but definatly different than the unmarked early ones, now about the loaders, 3 digit marked
4 8 3 early Glocks, 483-1 or 483-2 later produced Glocks.
Early (+) bases marked 1967, newer 7151.

I will look when I get home I still have my original 1987 speed loader from my gen 1 g17, which was smooth sided and not like the the gen 2 glock 19 or gen 1 glock 17 I purchased the next year. Those speed loaders were more like the ones we get today.

 

Wow, thanks guys.

My magazines are definitely NDF. I'm pretty certain I destroyed one of the baseplates the first time I changed them. I didn't have YouTube or instructions back then.

I do have a plus 2 base plate that is noticeably smaller than current versions, so I think that was the first one I bought.

So we've identified the 1990 speed loader. Now to explain why one speed loader had the logo on the left side and what that little symbol is beneath the logo.

I'm certain I found my original brush because I used it a lot. I need to double check the brush handle.

 

Is your (+) baseplate marked 1967 on it? And is your NDF mag a gold colored or silver colored U shape on the back top of the mag?

 

The three original mags I have are the third gen of the 9 magazine incarnations.

Silver U shaped top
Four dimples on each side
Austria printed under the Glock logo
An angled cut at the top that changes to a horizontal cut

I was mistaken. These are FML.

 

I found three baseplates with 3206 on them.

I found four inserts with 1693 on them while all the rest say 5166.

So I believe these go with my G17.

I have two baseplates which have no hole in the bottom and no numbers. I suspect these are the original G26 baseplates. Or perhaps they are the original G17. When did Glock add holes in the baseplate?

My smaller expanded base plate actually says +2 rather than just +. I think this was the original OEM part I bought in the 90s. It has no hole either.

 

POW,

Any Glock mag with a U notch is non drop free.

The baseplates with no hole for the locking plate are very early. The only earlier ones are the ones with no Glock trademark on them, they are flat and smooth.

The early +2s were marked just that way. The later ones are marked just plus. When the 9mm was the only caliber they made, the +2 was a true statement.

When other calibers came along it wasn't true any longer. At some point, I don't know when it was changed to just +.

The earliest mag loaders were smooth on the sides, no texturing at all. I got one with a two letter serial number prefix 23 just recently.


Cat

 

Guess I'm getting old and kind of slow but what on earth is the "speed loader" you keep referring to?

In the middle of this thread you started talking about magazines. Are they what you are calling speed loaders? Never heard that name used for magazines before. Odd!

Dave

 

The mag loader is the square open ended piece of black plastic that comes with all new Glocks, hardly used they have changed in design over the years like everything else, POWCA, your bases match your mags, and you have an early (+) mag bottom. Newer (+) bottoms are part #7151 and come with an insert. Enjoy your Glocks.

 

PS the G-26 never had NDF U notched mags ever. Always a 3206 baseplate on DF mags for them. The G-17 used NDF mags with the U shape on back and the no hole baseplates.

 

Thanks Cadillac.

I successfully matched the baseplates without holes to the 1990 G17. In the process, I also identified the baseplates and inserts for my G26 magazines. Thanks for all your help.

I found a website that shows pictures of the first eight generations of Glock magazines, with Gen 4 being the 9th.

http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=13&t=84144

My magazines are generation 3 of 8. They have Austria under the Glock logo. They do, in fact, have a metal lining which is clearly seen through the round count window (as opposed to gen 1 of eight). These are probably not "fully" metal lined and I can tell you from experience they dont drop free.

I also identified my speed loader which, on the original box says "loading support."

So the only original piece i have not identified is the cleaning rod, and the only original part I dont have is the recoil spring I threw away as defective (and the spring loaded bearing that flew across the room last night

 

Guess I'm getting old and kind of slow but what on earth is the "speed loader" you keep referring to?

In the middle of this thread you started talking about magazines. Are they what you are calling speed loaders? Never heard that name used for magazines before. Odd!

Dave

Sorry for the confusion Dave. My original post concerned the magazine loading support, often called a speed loader - the thingy that you put on top of the magazine to push the rounds down to load the next one. The discussion changed to magazine baseplates and magazine inserts.

As soon as I figure out how to upload pictures here, I will share my relic with the crowd. It feels so nice in the hand, I can see why people prefer it over later gens. I put modern parts back in it for safety, convenience, and reliability, but im saving all the original parts.

 

I just found another speed loader and this one is smooth and shiny all around. Do you think this is the original 1990 version? It has no number that I can find, and it has the Glock logo at the very top.

 

Yes I do. That matches mine perfectly that came with my very early 23.


Cat

 

I don't pay any attention to the speed loaders that come with the gun. I don't think they're very good. I have a couple of Uplula speed loaders that I use for all my autoloading pistols.

 

My question isn't about using them or how good they work. It's about having all of the original equipment as a collector's item.

FWIW, I've used the Glock speed loaders for 25 years and have had very few problems. A new magazine is always difficult to load. Once the springs are compressed, they get easier.

My 1911, Sig and CZ didn't come with mag loader at all, and I''ve had lots of difficulty loading those especially since the angle of the mag when braced on a flat surface is pretty steep.

I own several Lulas. Some of them are good, some not so good.

 

I am like you POW, I try and get a used Glock I find, back to original issue with all the original accessories.

 

I put every part I take off right back in the box, including 1911 grips I could sell. I have a collection of unfired and fired first year Kimbers and I even have the price tags and the advertisement to upgrade to wooden grips for each one. No confusion since everything is in the original marked box.