Check out the Overwatch Precision Trigger.

 

I was looking at that and their NP3 minus connector

 

Overwatch for budget......Johnny Glocks for premium.

 

The 43x was my first striker fire blaster and first 9mm, so I really wanted to explore it further. I've had the chance to try a few triggers and have some thoughts and preferences. The triggers I have tried are: 1) Stock Glock OEM serrated shoe. 2) Overwatch Poly DAT trigger (w/bar). 3) Johnny Glock $22 modified OEM trigger shoe. 4) Johnny Glock flat face trigger. I've had the opportunity to try them with different connectors and striker springs. I've tested these triggers with the OEM connector. Ghost Edge. Ghost Pro and Taran Tactical along with #4.5, 5.0 and stock springs. What I've found is that the components work together as a group and each has an affect on the others.
Spring tension and connector break are greatly affected by pre-travel and over travel considerations.

I'll give you the simple, cheapest and possibly the best combination, provided you like curved triggers. The Johnny Glock $22 oem shoe on a standard trigger bar, OEM connector with a 4.5 pound striker spring would be my off-the-cuff recommendation. Aside from being unbelievably cheap what the JG $22 shoe has is a pre-travel adjustment. By reeling in all that extra movement at the beginning makes for very short movements needed while still being safe. Trigger pull weight is then managed by striker springs and the connector to some degree.

If I can go on a bit about the JG $22 shoe with standard bar. I tried this with a Ghost PRO connector, adjusted for more limited overtravel. The combination of the two made for a very short pull, almost like a 1911 if you can believe it. Because of the decreased pre travel, a connector like the Ghost Pro that has a lot of roll has almost no "squishiness" that can be attributed to Ghost connectors whose claim to fame is eliminating the "bump". So it's a very short movement to the break, but it doesn't feel like a glass rod. It just feels like a break that happened smoothly without a lot of motion. I tried this combintation for awhile with the 4.5 pound spring and found the setup TOO LIGHT, close to 3 pounds and didn't help my shooting accuracy. I didn't think to put a heavier spring back in but changed the connector back to the OEM connector which works very well with this trigger.

A company previously mentioned, Overwatch Precision, their Poly DAT trigger isn't a bad alternative for around $60. I found it a bit too wide and too flat across the face and modified it to round off the "overhangs" at the edges. I felt the overhangs dug into my trigger finger a bit too much. While Overwatch claims to have removed some pre-travel, the adjustment is minimal, I think. It does work well with the OEM connector and #4.5 striker spring. Of all three after-market shoes the Poly DAT had the most pre travel, but unless you're comparing against others it is fine. It is far more comfortable than the standard Glock shoe with serrations and annoying dingus...errr.... safety level, that digs into your finger constantly reminding you that it's there. If you don't mind the width of the face and relatively sharp edges (overhangs) don't be put off by the polymer. Does the Overwatch tactical shoe have a different pre/over travel than the Poly DAT?

Johnny Glocks Flat face shoe. This is the most expensive of the three by a lot @ $105 for the shoe alone. It has reduced pre-travel, significantly more than the Overwatch Poly DAT but not as much as their $22 shoe that has pre-travel adjustment. This shoe works well with all the connectors I've tried. In fact, right now I've got the Ghost Pro connector in and found this setup with a #4.5 striker spring to make the pull too light, just over 3 pounds. I've now gone up to a pound springs and am up to 3.75 pound pull- and if I put the stock spring back in it's about #4.25. There is enough pre-travel reduction that there is only a slight "roll" before the break. But the one thing that I want to note is that with the Ghost connector is that once I feel the resistance, the amount of force to pull through to the break is constant (if squeezing slowly and progressively). I contrast that with the other connectors which seem to require an increasing amount of finger squeeze pressure until you can get it to break. I'm finding I like the smoothness of the 5 pound spring with the Ghost Pro connector and the JG flat face shoe. I'm not sure which combination I'll end up with, but I have some tactical training in the next few weeks and I'll decide what i think works best. What I'm getting at is that I've discovered that the amount of pre-travel determines how the bar interfaces with the connector which can drastically affect the trigger pull weight, which can then be made heavier or lighter with the striker spring of preference. Where this might become important for some is that if someone wants a lighter pull but is afraid of light primer strikes because of a lightweight striker spring there are ways to lighten and/or shorten the trigger pull and still use a heavier springs.

I know there are a lot of really well made, great functioning, great feeling triggers out there. There are just three that I've had experience with. Good luck.

 

Great post; a lot of good information
Thank You,
Rooster

 

Apex Tactical, I like the fact that their parts don't try to reinvent the Glock trigger, they just clean it up a lot.

 

I ended up grabbing an apex kit. It has a red trigger shoe that I’m not a huge fan of, but I was just happy to find one. I’ve used the apex kit before in glocks and m&P and I’ve really been happy with the results, so I’m happy to have a known commodity.

 

Johnny glock combat trigger with flat face shoe is expensive but it is well worth it. If I recall correctly it comes out to over $300 with the flat face trigger shoe but man his triggers are just out of this world. I have one in all my glocks and I have never felt a glock with a better trigger then mine. My 43x was easily the worst oem glock trigger I had ever felt but the gun shoots like a dream now with his system. It feels better then the p365xl that I sold to fund this project and that gun is known as having one of the best oem subcompact striker triggers out there. They are worth every penny and I will reccomend them any chance I get

 

Try the CMC trigger. Found them in stock for a 43x mos I'm building up.

 

I would have recommended the Polish Job...but too late. It seems Glock triggers are a pot luck. After the polish job its way improved.

 

Update: The Apex kit came in and it’s installed. I’ll bring it to the range and test it out tomorrow. The dry fire already feels so much better.

 

OP did you get to live fire this? Did you get connector as well or just shoe? How do you like it compared to the OEM? I've heard people say it doesn't make a big difference other than feel.

 

‘I did get a chance to live fire and I wasn’t impressed. It’s both the connector and the shoe. The trigger is still quite heavy and not crisp at all. I have apex kits in tons of glocks and m&Ps and they’ve always given me an excellent trigger pull. This gun is probably going to get sold. Despite the fact that I like how it fits my hand, the trigger just blows compared to my shield with an apex, a stock p365, any of my double stack glocks both oem and apex or any stock p320. I might as well have lit $160 on fire.

 

It would be nice if Apex made a narrower trigger shoe for the Glock, the Apex shoe is really wide and may not shoot as well for people who like to use more finger in the trigger. If you like to use the part of your finger nearly up to the first joint you might not like Apex but if you use just the pad of your finger you might really like the Apex. Apex shoes are great quality I just wish they made a thinner shoe.

 

The Overwatch Poly DAT is fairly wide too. But not only is the shoe wide, but has a ridge on both sides, seemingly for design purposes which I round dug into my trigger finger for both right and left sides. I ended up filing and contouring the outer edge of the trigger face for more comfort. The Poly DAT claims to have reduced pre-travel, but if there was it is negligible as I honestly couldn't that any was taken out.

 

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Op, before you write off the 43X try changing out the striker spring, I'm currently running a LWD mid weight spring and feel that it was the one thing that most improved my 43X MOS trigger.

I did try the light weight striker spring but got light primer strikes so I stayed with the mid weight, closed to 1000 rounds without an issue. so if you do change out striker springs be sure to test with live fire on what ever ammo you will use.

I also installed a LWD smooth faced trigger shoe simply because I don't care for the ridged trigger face of the stock trigger shoe.

I am using the stock "-" connector and trigger bar but use white lithium grease where they meet, seems to be a better choice for lube at that particular point as its still present at cleaning/lube after al long range session.

the above and a $0.25 trigger job and I'm right at 5 lbs. with a solid wall and a clean break.

one other item, tho I can't quantify with a trigger pull gage, that I believe helped is the addition of a Hogue grip sleeve, the one with the beavertail and flinger grooves. I don't know if it just puts my hand/trigger finger in exactly the right place or what but it does seemed to make the handling of the 43X for me that much better.

 

If it were recently obtained, I'd speculate it needing to be actually used rather than upgraded with wonder parts, to mate any contact surfaces that might be causing friction.

 

I found my 43 and 43X triggers to be pretty crisp once you hit the wall. Yes, pretravel isn't great, but I never found pretravel to be an issue when trying to make accurate shots. To me the break and overtravel are what matters. What happens before the shot is irrelevant, IMO. All I did was replace my trigger shoes with the Apex and shoot the crap out of them. Perfectly acceptable triggers for a carry gun. Much better than the triggers I have on my 2 P365X's which will be getting sold.

 

Wow...didn't see this thread, before. My 43x has a pretty darn smooth out of the box pull and and definitive 'boing' at the break. It's good enough for blasting I'm not even taking this one apart to polish anything. Same with our 48.

 

Johnny Glock trigger shoe

 

I picked up the complete JG Evolution X Combat system a couple of weeks ago.. Yes, it's expensive. No, it isn't needed. But... after close to 1k downrange with it, I'm pretty impressed. Crisp 4# pull and all the safeties work. Even drop tested it half a dozen times. JG seems to know what he's doing. The dingus on his flat-face shoe is genius! I actually purchased the system with the OEM shoe and upgraded to the FF a couple of days later. Huge difference! Honestly, I thought I would just be wasting money, but I was wrong.

 

I picked up the complete JG Evolution X Combat system a couple of weeks ago.. Yes, it's expensive. No, it isn't needed. But... after close to 1k downrange with it, I'm pretty impressed. Crisp 4# pull and all the safeties work. Even drop tested it half a dozen times. JG seems to know what he's doing. The dingus on his flat-face shoe is genius! I actually purchased the system with the OEM shoe and upgraded to the FF a couple of days later. Huge difference! Honestly, I thought I would just be wasting money, but I was wrong.

😎🤨😆😜… You and I did very much the same thing. First his OEM shoe and quickly followed up, within days his flat face shoe. I didn’t buy either as part of a kit but got his trigger bar a few weeks later. No real difference in feel from the stock Glock bar but the striker lug has a bit more meat on the cruciform.

I’ve had quite a bit of correspondence and a few phone conversations with Johnny. The guy is a genius. Just the other day I had asked him why the FF shoe has a lighter trigger pull all on its own. He agreed that the design has more leverage and transfers more energy.

Have you noticed that the safety lever in th FF shoe has a measurable pull? About 8 ounces as best as I can tell. He has gotten rid of the take up slop of the stock trigger, shortening the reach, while removing a modest amount of pre travel to maintain safety. The over travel adjustment shortens the reset. IMO it is the most efficient and SAFEST shoe out there.

As far as his oem shoe goes, it’s a different kind of genius. There is no reason Glock couldn’t have made the stock shoe more comfortable. What’s up with that serrated shoe? A total POS if you ask me. The only potential negative with the JG OEM shoe is that it is easy to get too aggressive with the pre travel adjustment. At one point I tested the JG OEM shoe in conjunction with the Ghost PRO connector that was adjusted for over travel. The trigger pull was incredibly short and light, almost like a 1911 with a 3 pound pull. IMO way too dangerous for carry, and it didn’t improve my range accuracy one bit.

 

Update:
It has been 2.5 years of so since I embarked with my 43x. Getting my 48 MOS a few months ago got me to testing again. And there are some things that have just appeared to me that I didn't recogizize before.

As I said before, all the parts of the internals are interconnected. One part may make another part feel better- or worse. All interconnected.
While I had a Ghost Pro connector in my bin I hadn't used it. I thought I liked a crisp break like I always have with my 1911. But I discovered that the super crisp wall made me a bit jerky. I've discovered that a smooth, wall-less break sill allows me to know where my trigger finger is in space, but I am no long trying to pull through a hard resistance.

Second, while I really used to prefer the Johnny Glock flat face shoe (which I don't know he sells any more), I've now got his Vex shoe in my 48 and his OEM shoe in my 43x. What I discovered, that while very comfortable, the wider flat face shoe made it more susceptible to being pushed a hair right or left. The combination of the Vex shoe and Ghost Pro Connector provides me with more accuracy. The one thing I do not like about the Vex and his flat face shoe is that the etchings are too agrressive. I've taken care of that, and still retain pretty good grip and friction on the face.

As far as JG's $22 OEM shoe I am a fan for the money. I had to be careful not to take out too much over-travel so as not to get the trigger bar's vertical extension too close to the plunger and prematurely engage it. The Ghost Pro dials back the overtravel to the degree I want. This is in my 43x. But note; Each Ghost Pro connector has to be tailored to the frame or more specifically to the trigger bar that it connects with. Using the same Ghost Pro connector can feel/be radically different from lower to lower, depending on the slide installed.

It cannot be too important not to emphasize again that EACH PART creates a unique circumstance in every individiual pistol! If you train and practice regularly this all can be found to be a great boon to shooting. But if you aren't willing to practice and train... like others have said... JUST STAY STOCK.