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Factory barrel v Faxon barrel

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#1 ·
I had interesting consistency results at the range while breaking in and function checking my hodge podge Glock 19.

The factory barrel has maybe 100 rounds through it and the Faxon was brand new.

My groups were 2-3 times tighter with the Faxon barrel and using the same firearm, just swapping out barrels. I repeated five shot groups many times so it wasn't a fluke.

Are factory barrels not so great? I remember shooting pretty much lights out with someone's G17 a few years ago and it was all factory. Anyways, I can't speak highly enough about Faxon. I know them mostly for their rifle barrels (even their non match gunner barrel I am down to 1.6-1.8 MOA on 300 blackout which is considered quite accurate for that cartridge).
 
#3 ·
Your comment about accuracy remains anecdotal and qualitative without some sort of numerical comparison to show quantitative results.

How much “more accurate” were your groups? What were the distances? How were you shooting? Free hand? Supported? Rest?
 
#4 ·
Never had an issue with accuracy from a stock Glock.

What do you mean 'hodge podge' Glock 19?
Oh it's all relative. Wasn't poo pooing the Glock factory barrel per say, just surprised that a "match" barrel actually translated into a significant difference. A please surprise.

Hodge podge meant it is a PSA dagger compact frame Gen3, with a Glock factory Gen3 trigger, G19 Gen4 slide, Faxon barrel. I had to angle up the engagement surface of the rear / cruciform area of the trigger. Still learning so bear with me on terminology.

Your comment about accuracy remains anecdotal and qualitative without some sort of numerical comparison to show quantitative results.

How much “more accurate” were your groups? What were the distances? How were you shooting? Free hand? Supported? Rest?
For someone who seems to want to present themselves as analytical, detailed, and knowledgable, I'd have expected you to not misquote me. I didn't say accuracy of the Glock barrel, but consistency.

Your likely condescending attitude aside, yes it is anecdotal which is why I'm here asking about others' experiences so that I can learn.
 
#7 ·
Hodge podge meant it is a PSA dagger compact frame Gen3, with a Glock factory Gen3 trigger, G19 Gen4 slide, Faxon barrel. I had to angle up the engagement surface of the rear / cruciform area of the trigger.
Gotcha, thanks. The Dagger seems to be popular. Never shot one but IIRC it's based on the Gen 3? In regards to the consistency, is the stock barrel groups not quite as tight or are there more flyers? Do you have pics of your targets? And did you use more than one type of ammo in each barrel?

Still learning so bear with me on terminology.
No problem, we all start at the same spot :)
 
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#15 ·
Gotcha, thanks. The Dagger seems to be popular. Never shot one but IIRC it's based on the Gen 3? In regards to the consistency, is the stock barrel groups not quite as tight or are there more flyers? Do you have pics of your targets? And did you use more than one type of ammo in each barrel?



No problem, we all start at the same spot :)
I'm too new to the Glocks and too small a sample size to even guess at answers to your questions. The groups definitely had fliers but it was 90% my doing like I said. But the majority of them just grouped in a circular pattern with both barrels, just of different sizes. Only shot the Federal 115 gr FMJ, shot at 5, 10, 25+ yd intervals. Thanks, I look forward to learning the platform.
 
#10 ·
I'm a huge advocate for Faxon barrels, they're one of the only manufacturers in USA that do everything in-house. I've used their barrels in AR builds, 10/22 builds, and most recently in a G43x custom port job by Monsoon Tactical.

However, accuracy of the shooter and ammunition are a bigger variable than any reputable barrel on a Glock. Both barrels deliver similar accuracy and you'll find that to be true across the board with most reputable barrel brands.
 
#11 · (Edited)
About once a month I get the urge to buy an aftermarket barrel, start pricing stuff out, and then thankfully have a moment of sanity when I remember my eyes are shot so what's the point anyway; just keeping it all in the 5" black bullseye at 15 yards is good enough.

But I am sneaking off to check out faxon glock barrels now... I've got 2 faxon ar15 barrels, I know the company is reputable.

30 Minutes Later:
Damn, $122... Struggling to reconcile my "What the hell, do it" devil with my "Dude, HOW MANY TIMES do you have to learn the 'buy-once-cry-once' lesson??" angel.

3 Hours Later:
OK, I have talked myself off the "$122 Faxon What the hell" ledge. Better to spend that money on ammo and practice. Concerning myself with groups while running the factory trigger is a fool's errand.
 
#13 ·
Your comment about accuracy remains anecdotal and qualitative without some sort of numerical comparison to show quantitative results.

How much “more accurate” were your groups? What were the distances? How were you shooting? Free hand? Supported? Rest?
Austin26

Welcome to Glock Talk, hope you enjoy your stay. This is the place where former LEOs come to pontificate about how great their knowledge and inquiries are and also to put down any simple request for input from new guys. Let me apologize to you for them.

It's been said about drivers of pickups that are jacked up 12" are due to a deformity or absence of ......well you know.

Your OP post is interesting. There is a belief that pervades this community that it is sacred ground to change out any Glock factory part for an aftermarket component. Never mind that its your Glock and tell them to ..............off. You know.

I really like KKM barrels and have them on a G26 and a G30, but don't tell anybody about it and especially when I mention that it improved the accuracy of that particular gun. ( (I don't feel the need to quantify my experience and the LEO misused the word qualitative.... but don't tell him) I've also heard good reports, like yours, about the Faxon products. Continue on with your shooting skills and have a blast. There is an ignore feature available on this site.
 
#14 ·
Austin26

Welcome to Glock Talk, hope you enjoy your stay. This is the place where former LEOs come to pontificate about how great their knowledge and inquiries are and also to put down any simple request for input from new guys. Let me apologize to you for them.

It's been said about drivers of pickups that are jacked up 12" are due to a deformity or absence of ......well you know.

Your OP post is interesting. There is a belief that pervades this community that it is sacred ground to change out any Glock factory part for an aftermarket component. Never mind that its your Glock and tell them to ..............off. You know.

I really like KKM barrels and have them on a G26 and a G30, but don't tell anybody about it and especially when I mention that it improved the accuracy of that particular gun. ( (I don't feel the need to quantify my experience and the LEO misused the word qualitative.... but don't tell him) I've also heard good reports, like yours, about the Faxon products. Continue on with your shooting skills and have a blast. There is an ignore feature available on this site.
Wow!
Qualitative-
relating to how good or bad something is:
Is there any qualitative difference between these two DVD players?
Just substitute barrel for DVD player.
No pontificating here but in the spirit of fairness- OP you’ll find a lot of folks who don’t like the police and take time to assign traits and actions to them that they haven’t exhibited for themselves. You’ll also, once you’ve been here a while see that same threads repeated over and over with only minor changes.
As he said, there is an ignore button you can click. Some folks use them a lot but that just makes it hard to participate in a thread.
 
#17 ·
To clarify my request for further info so that I can make informed comments-
All you did was change the barrel. You used the same ammo and fired at the same distances and the groups were 2-3 times tighter?
That’s why I asked for numbers. Just interested in whether 3” at 15yd (or whatever) Glock OEM groups tightened down to 1-2” or what. You mentioned consistency so I assume you mean the results were repeated. Did both barrels hit poi/poa?

Stay here long enough and someone will make you mad. Whether they do it on purpose is up to you to decide but one thing Bluescot mentioned is true. Some people think they know everything and try to convince you it’s true.
 
#25 ·
I've recently started a post about my Gen 5 17 barrel. I've only had mediocre accuracy out of it. Definitely minute of bad guy at 15yards. I've been shooting my whole life and consider myself a pretty decent shot. Dont get me wrong its been 100% reliable. I've spent alot of money chasing some sort of accuracy. So I just ordered a Faxon barrel.See how it compares.
Now on the other hand. My Glock 21 SF ( all Factory) is an awesome shooter. Easiest gun I've ever loaded for. Any flavor of 230gr bullet and 6.2 gr of Unique and this gun flat out shoots great. Way better than my gen 5 17. So when you can hit like lightning with one and not the other , makes a guy wonder.
 
#27 ·
That was a good vid, have been doing the same thing with my
different OEM barrels and conversion barrels, checking POI,
some of them will impact in the same area with different calibers.

I do wish he would have done the test at 25yds, still a good test.

Some of us expect more than MOFat man at 15yds with our handguns.
 
#39 ·
Will do it with a factory barrel too.
All day long IF you use a Ransom rest, laser sighting tools, indoor range, and carefully controlled match ammo.

Not so much if a human is shooting it.
Bad golfers can get hole in ones- and it's not because of the clubs they use. Good golfers get consistent low scores.