Thanks. Looks like a nice option.

 

Very cool , A good barrel and bolt on an in spec gun will go a loooong way especially if properly gassed with an efficient gas run. There are so\o many good free float rail combos available and triggers that you can make any base gun truly excellent.

 

The only thing on his specs I don't like is the Barrel I would prefer a Chrome lined Medium contour barrel for a duty gun.

 

Yeah, not sure why there isn't an upgrade option like he has for his other rifles.
I, too, prefer chrome lined, but that's only bevause it's mil-spec, and greatly helped Vietnam vets when it was introduced.
I keep hearing from the nitride crowd that it's close enough that there's not much of a difference to make a difference. That would be nice, but I don't know how true that is.
Supposedly, nitride resists corrosion just as well, is as libricious and hard as chrome...mostly.

 

Never heard of this company. Plenty of reliable ARs well below $1k out there

 

The idea isn't to buy a cheap AR under a grand. It's to maximize the quality you get for spending no more than $1K.

If I asked you to pick an AR that sells for a grand, which would you choose?

 

Like TacticalSpeed said, I'd never heard of Argos Ordnance and I can buy an AR for $350-400 any day of the week.

Why would I pay $1,000 for this?

I do see: BCM furniture, Radian ambi safeties and charging handles, US-Made hardshell case.

and "We guarantee Sub-MOA performance with high-quality, commercial factory match-grade ammunition in all of our A115 builds."

So that's good stuff, but my Spikes AR with FN barrel, Chip McCormick trigger, and mid-length gas system cost a little over half as much.

 

Where's a link to the rifle you bought?
I think you're sorely missing the point, just like the other member you referenced; it's not about buying the cheapest rifle. It's about finding the nicest rifle you can below a thousand dollars.

 

Looks okay for $1K, and I don't begrudge anyone making a few bucks to assemble and AR15 for those who don't want to, or can not do it themselves.

This does bother me though shimmed and bedded quality mid-length barrels.

With 7075 receivers and a "quality" barrel, shimming and bedding are not needed on an AR15. So, he is doing something wrong or is advertising something he is not doing. Maybe he is Thermofitting and calling is something else to be stealthy, but still, not something needed if the receivers are built right.

 

I have a WIndham I paid $800 for. It's been completely reliable and very accurate. Killed a coyote and doe with it.

I've also got a Colt A4 I paid about 1K for and have been completely happy with.

Buy what you like, but the AR market is just so crowded and boutique for me these days.

I'd rather see someone try to make a nice Galil or Stoner 63 variant instead of "another" AR manufacturer.

 

I did a BCM I like it never failed me at the range. Id take my BCM over most at less.. I cant think of another id rather have at sub 1K actually its set up lightweight CQB type..I tried to be the most realistic I could outside range use.. so CQB was it..

 

What year did you buy the BCM in, and what model is it?

 

I bought the parts from BCM and got a complete upper.. I did this this way because it cost less. back then they were doing a free BCG with the upper and then bought the bottom end and dropped in a ALG ACT trigger(wanted the better trigger) this was about 10-11 years ago.

The upper with free BCG was around $625-$650 (lightweight mid length) if no free BCG im guessing closer to $100 more and im not sure if they do that anymore may..may not I havent looked at AR since i got that one)

Lower was like $350 so right at my $1K threshold.. (id budgeted 1K or less

I had the ALG ACT trigger from a sale running earlier so I did drop that in in place of the BCM one I think it was $62-65 but since id bought it even before getting the AR I didnt include it in the price.

 

FWIW, there are a LOT of quality ARs on the market for under $600. Enhanced, a lot under $1k. Customs with match barrels and match triggers, plenty from $1500 up to $2500. It really comes down to what you want/like/purpose.

 

Which AR would you choose if you had to trade a one-thousand dollar bill for it, didn't have any tools or knowledge on how to fix it, and demanded it to be reliable with all ammo?

 

I updated the thread in case I didn't explain well enough why I created it.

Admittingly, I was confused by some of the replies, so I rewrote the OP to be more clear.
TIA

 

I've had my S&W M&P15 since 2011 and it's still doing fine and accurate. I got it for $550 that time, but they're not that much more now.

 

Yeah, my M&P15 is a keeper.

 

Chad is a day late and a dollar short. The market is COMPLETELY saturated with AR assemblers. Notice i said assemblers. I wish him well.

 

OK after perusing his website, IMHO, this guy is off his rocker. He has Geissele like pricing on NON pedigree stuff.

Earth to Chad, lose the YouTube swelled head and ridiculous pricing. Or pick another career path bro....

 

Colt seems to do okay even with their high prices, anti-gun positions and mediocre customer service. But yes, it's the "name" that lets them get away with that.

 

Every person on this forum should own at least one AR… it is the gun the elite hate and fear the most. Do not let them get away with targeting and removing this great American Icon. Especially since Biden has been importing a literal army of illegals. You may very well need one soon enough.

 

[/QUOTE] OK after perusing his website, IMHO, this guy is off his rocker. He has Geissele like pricing on NON pedigree stuff.

Earth to Chad, lose the YouTube swelled head and ridiculous pricing. Or pick another career path bro....
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Regarding the rifle in the OP, each peice priced individually almost adds up to $1k.

 

OK after perusing his website, IMHO, this guy is off his rocker. He has Geissele like pricing on NON pedigree stuff.

Earth to Chad, lose the YouTube swelled head and ridiculous pricing. Or pick another career path bro....
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Regarding the rifle in the OP, each peice priced individually almost adds up to $1k.
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That is the Youtube GunBro premium.

 

Don't kid yourself. Anyone making AR's is trying to balance profit vs production while maintaining demand. Everyone buying an AR is trying to maximize quality vs. price.

Quality of components and care in the manufacture is difficult to truly assess -- most people will just throw out brand names (most likely those they own) with no real ability to know the real value. The magic of marketing and brand loyalty runs strong.

How much quality do you really need for your purposes? Do you even need to spend $1k?

 

The difference here is you can research just about every part on the rifle because much isn't left to the imagination, and the parts offered are all American made quality parts that surpass most, if not all, any other offerring close to the price.
The closest rifle that I am aware of that competes in quality is the Geiselle El Jeffe @ $1200. However, that's not under a grand.
Any offering below a grand that comes to mind is the IWI Zion, and I would say Chad's offering is higher quality, by a decent margin.

Each component of the rifle must be compared to other rifles and I suspect most who replied didn't do so. That suggests many buyers didn't do so, and they went their preferred route of what's the most acceptable cheapest, or some other route, which is OK, but misses the point of this thread.

With each identical part added up, I couldn't build this rifle below what Chad sells it for.

To me, the best part is, those who know Chad, know the rifle will be assembled correctly the first time. QC is becoming more reasonable to pay extra for as I get older, if there is any markup for QC in this rifle at all.

So, if anyone wants to maximize quality not costing more than a grand, IMO, this rifle is it.

 

Even when comparing component parts, most people may just be throwing out names (or regurgitating marketing), and not fully knowing if the part is up to the task but just believing because of the name (faith and religion).

There's a youtube channel "school of american rifle" that after watching his vids, you may develop some skepticism in parts and manufacturing process. At least realize what you don't know.

 

Even when comparing component parts, most people may just be throwing out names (or regurgitating marketing), and not fully knowing if the part is up to the task but just believing because of the name (faith and religion).

There's a youtube channel "school of american rifle" that after watching his vids, you may develop some skepticism in parts and manufacturing process. At least realize what you don't know.

I watch SOTAR regularly and have learned a lot from Chad.
I think from watching SOTAR, it gave me an even greater appreciation of the rifle were discussing.

 

I found it easy to make an AR for under a grand. I found it impossible to put furniture and sights on it for less than $1500. YMMV

 

This is meant for non-builders, or someone who doesn't want to build one.

 

Another vote for Aero. My 18" .223 wylde and my 16" M5 .308 run flawlessly and are tack drivers.

 

Specifically, this thread is about getting the best already assembled rifle possible for as close to a thousand dollars.

I understand that people will do their very best to buy a seperate compete lower, and a seperate complete upper, then call that a rifle, but that's not what we're doing in this thread because people have asked, on GlockTalk, what is the best AR15 for $1K.

FWIW, IMO, any rifle Aero sells at $1000 is overpriced. For a similar price, you could have BCM components, if you're buying uppers and lowers from different places.
Aero has sales on uppers, but they don't come with a bcg or ch, and once you add those parts, a BCM is the same price and will come with a hammer forged chrome lined barrel with seemingly higher quality control.

I'm continually suprised how well Aero sells, considering once you add all of the parts up, you could be into something much nicer. Aero must have excellent ad campaigns.

 

Nice shill post. That guy's YT channel is annoying as hell. Plus, there's this....
The Yankee Marshall recently revealed that IV8888 is charging up to $4,000 to provide positive gun "reviews".

 

Nice shill post. That guy's YT channel is annoying as hell. Plus, there's this....
The Yankee Marshall recently revealed that IV8888 is charging up to $4,000 to provide positive gun "reviews".

Please refrain from being derogatory and accusatory.

I am in no way affiliated with Chad, nor his business.

 

There are only a few companies making parts for most of the "brand names". It's mostly marketing. I've had cheaper ARs run fine & accurate as well as expensive builds do the same.

Too much weight is put on a brand like any other product IMO

 

Go with a Colt you can get those for under 1K if you look around;

 

Colt 6920s can be found for under a grand all day long if you look. That would be my choice for under a grand if not building it myself.

 

I know the spirit of this post is for those who don't want to build your own.... but... build your own.

It's fun. Tools required are not expensive. If you can find one of the now discontinued ALG Defense rails, you don't even need to have a torque wrench. Service and QA is just a phone call to yourself away. Ample resources on internet to research any issues.

 

I still think the best budget AR is the S&W M&P variants.

I build my own rifles though, and lean into the buy once cry once mentality.

Currently in progress (incomplete)

 

What grip are you using?