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Do You Consider Taurus Products "Junk Guns"?

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#1 ·
Okay. Here we go. I'm NOT trying to start a brawl. I just want some opinions.

Do you consider all of Taurus's products "junk guns"? A lot of people have torn up Taurus's customer service and "lifetime warranty" on this site. I've also heard people rag on The Judge. However, a few of said their rendition of the Beretta 92FS isn't too bad.

What do you think? Do you own a Taurus? If not, why? Any plans to buy one or more?
 
#202 ·
I think Taurus makes pretty good guns. In the early days they had a lot of problems, but now they are on par with the rest of the mid-grade brands. No, they aren't a Sig or HK, but my 24/7 OSS performs just as good as my Glocks.
I know I'll get the usual "Taurus is junk" response, but I'm going on MY PERSONAL experience.

My Taurus
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#205 ·
Whatever model he has is all steel with a 4" barrel. Its not lightweight or small in the slightest, especially for a rimfire handgun. My ultralite snubs have much smoother/lighter triggers than his 22mag. Price doesn't equal quality in my book but I've yet to handle any revolver in any caliber that has the unnecessary heavy trigger pull as the Taurus in 22mag my dad owns, except a Russian Nagant.
Its a rimfire revolver that you are comparing to a centerfire .38. Here is a good example, the S&W Model 63, all steel j frame .22 revolver with a 5" barrel, almost exactly like the .22mag you own.

http://rugerforum.net/pistols-revolvers/10848-s-w-model-63-a.html

I've been wanting a .22lr revolver but haven't been able to track down an SP101 in that caliber. When an opportunity to trade for an older S&W model 63 came along, I took it. It may have been a mistake. The thing shoots reasonably well, but the DA trigger pull is garbage: heavy and raspy. I took the gun apart and cleaned it thoroughly. That helped a bit but not too much. I did, however, get a sense of accomplishment from figuring out how to put the hand back in correctly (after several failed attempts). I'm not sure if this gun is a keeper, but I'll give it some time. And perhaps suffering through its abysmal trigger will help me love my other guns more.
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#209 ·
Indeed.

Gotta say Taurus has stepped up their game in the past 11 years though, last few offerings have been pretty OK.
 
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#219 ·
Yeah, didn't even see the clown's post. Glad that one worked itself out quickly.

@indivi I know you actually have had a bad track record with Taurus, so this isn't meant to be argumentative. To be fair, I have seen far more Taurus guns run fine than the few I have seen not run fine, and I've personally not had an issue Taurus gun. The several of mine have all run 100%. My brother did have an issue with a TP738 10 or so years ago, sent it in, and had it back in a couple weeks and it ran fine after.

I have seen this issue with the GX4, and I can see straight away from the engineering choices on the striker block plunger, if the trigger bar is out of spec or something else like bad heat treat causing the bar to be more flexible, this can happen. I do believe that Taurus will have to potentially recall this or send out new striker block plungers to rectify this issue. It's a risk with any first gen new design. I doubt they'll send the part out, as most people can't install it, but I'm not sending my guns to them for something I can do blindfolded and wait for what could run into months.

I own the GX4, and don't mind Taurus products. I even got a second GX4, because it's so damn good. I ran mine and they ran beautifully yesterday, and they're quite nice. I'm shaking my head on this one, since they put so much energy into this new design, and of course, it has a potentially dangerous flaw. I could NOT duplicate it in mine, but I'll keep reviewing mine as the round counts increase. They're doing lightyears better than decades ago, but they're still learning. Again, to be fair, they're not the only gun company that let a new design go out with a potential breakage/issue/safety concern. One of the GX4 complaint videos regarding this issue, the guy tries to assert that he's no expert but he's not bad with guns either. He then says this failure occurs at the range, and he then reholsters the weapon after a failure to fire, in his Appendix IWB rig....... Ok..... I don't understand who in their right mind would reholster a weapon almost immediately after a failure to fire... Keep pointed in safe direction, and run failure correction.

Just interesting discussion.
 
#223 ·
I finally skipped to the end. 222 posts with no logic to sway a person either way.

I bought a G3C TORO for $315. It seems to compare well to my $640 P365 XL. Both have red dot mounts.
There goes all the posts saying the Taurus doesn't cost much less than a "quality gun".
I'm on vacation, and haven't shot it yet.
But I will have to do the comparison myself, this thread has been no help. 😁
 
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#224 · (Edited)
I only own one Taurus pistol. I purchased an early 90's PT92 about five or six months ago. It appears to be well built compared to my Italian and US built Beretta 92 series pistols, but has the cocked and locked option without the newer decock function. I have only had it to the range once so far but it shot well. I have no interest in any of the other stuff they have, though.
 
#225 ·
Personally I am not a fan of nor would I own or recommend a Taurus pistol. For the most part (their Beretta 92 series clones excepted) I consider them a lower tier product and priced accordingly along with often very mediocre customer service including long waits for service from numerous reports by owners.

However everyone has different needs and expectations. Not everyone needs a more "professional" quality tool and is willing to take the chance that their particular purchase will work well for them within their needs which may include more modest performance and round count fired over their term of ownership for the intended use and not that concerned about mediocre customer service if it is needed.

When discussing Taurus pistols with those I know who are interested in them I always bring up the point that in IMHO much better options are available from other manufactures, including better customer service, at not that much more investment. For instance Smith and Wesson SD9VE, original M&P and Shield models, pretty much anything Ruger, Canik pistols, and used pistols from Smith and Wesson, SIG, Glock, etc.
 
#228 ·
Yep. There are probably some good ones, but I’ve heard of too many customer service nightmares. I’d rather buy a used Glock, Ruger, or Smith & Wesson.

And yep, I fell for the damn necrothread, AGAIN.
 
#230 ·
Lousy quality control and way worse parts support and customer service. They made a few short 44 mags I would take for free or stupid cheap, on the assumption I'd make parts or scrounge them on the web.
 
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#231 ·
I've only owned one Taurus pistol. It was a striker fired semi auto 9mm. The trigger failed to reset randomly and It was so bad that I returned it to the LGS and demanded my money back. They were pissed!

A few days later, I got a call from the LGS and received an apology. They test fired it and found the same problem. It went back to Taurus for repair and came back 100% after a trigger replacement.

Nope, no more Taurus products for me!

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