[mikegun]

I have carried my gen 2 G23 duty Glock for pretty much everything since retiring from the SO, simply because it ALWAYS works, I live in Colorado and spend my time fishing , camping and a little hunting am thinking of a 10mm or 357sig Glock to replace my G23 , Need some input??? change, done change?? which cal if any???? thanks guys,almost forgot, the worst thing ill run into is a bear, and im guessing you will say the 10mm slug will be best for this? if so ill get a G20...THANKS GUYS AGAIN, I HAD NO IDEA NO ONE MADE A 10MM BBL FOR A g23....SOOOOOOO, ILL GET A G20 0R g29.....

 

[oldman11]

I have carried my gen 2 G23 duty Glock for pretty much everything since retiring from the SO, simply because it ALWAYS works, I live in Colorado and spend my time fishing , camping and a little hunting am thinking of a 10mm or 357sig Glock to replace my G23 , Need some input??? change, done change?? which cal if any???? thanks guys

Just get a Glock 357sig barrel and swap them out, and you're ready to go. You can even use the same magazines. As for a 10mm you need to buy another gun. I have the G20 and G29 and I like them both.

 

[PAGunner]

Why change? Do you live in a rural area with potential 4 legged threats?... If so, ya 10mm makes some sense, if only 2 legged threats I think I'd stay with the 23 or even consider the 19. .357sig ammo remains crazy expensive and hard to find, something to give serious consideration to, nothing wrong with modern 9mm JHPs.

 

[M2 Carbine]

I'm a fan of the 357 SIG.

I bought a G33 because it was a good deal and found out I like the caliber. Since then I bought two more guns chambered for the 357 SIG and have loaded several thousand rounds.

 

[r3dot]

I'd rather have my G20 with 16 rounds than my 23 in the woods.


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[happie2shoot]

I'm a fan of the 357 SIG.

I bought a G33 because it was a good deal and found out I like the caliber. Since then I bought two more guns chambered for the 357 SIG and have loaded several thousand rounds.

Anyway you could show us your load data for the 357sig.:wavey:

 

[happie2shoot]

I have carried my gen 2 G23 duty Glock for pretty much everything since retiring from the SO, simply because it ALWAYS works, I live in Colorado and spend my time fishing , camping and a little hunting am thinking of a 10mm or 357sig Glock to replace my G23 , Need some input??? change, done change?? which cal if any???? thanks guys

As said in the 2nd post you can get a 357sig barrel, you can
also get a 9mm barrel form Lone Wolf for your gun.

The g23 can shoot a 180gr cast fn at some good speed, I have got 1159fps and its not at max yet.

 

[Mike-M]

Just get a Glock 357sig barrel and swap them out, and you're ready to go. You can even use the same magazines.

Changing a .40SW/.357SIG Glock to a .357SIG/.40SW Glock with only a barrel change works well. I do that with both my G27 and my G31.

There are some differences in the surface profiles of .40SW and .357SIG magazine followers. If I intend to use a .40SW magazine for .357SIG for a particularly long time, I usually replace the .40SW magazine follower with one for .357SIG. But that's not possible if one has old .40SW magazines with followers marked 5 or less, due to magazine mouth modifications that Glock made on the later magazines.

Also of note, the factory G22 and G23 have a fixed rear sight elevation of 6.5mm, while the factory G31 and G32 have a fixed rear sight elevation of 6.9mm. (The G27 and G33 both use 6.5mm from the factory.)

So there's more detail to the story than just the barrel change...but it is detail that most can ignore from a practicality standpoint.

 

[SDGlock23]

I have carried my gen 2 G23 duty Glock for pretty much everything since retiring from the SO, simply because it ALWAYS works, I live in Colorado and spend my time fishing , camping and a little hunting am thinking of a 10mm or 357sig Glock to replace my G23 , Need some input??? change, done change?? which cal if any???? thanks guys,almost forgot, the worst thing ill run into is a bear, and im guessing you will say the 10mm slug will be best for this? if so ill get a G20...

Well I'm going to say that unless you've got money burning a hole in your pocket or just want another gun, I'd stick with the G23. It could be argued all day long which model Glock is best for this or that, but the truth is that many overlap one another in ability. Most will say get a 10mm and that's not wrong, but if the 20 is enough to get the job done, so is the 23 which might sound backwards, but it's true.

You've already got something small and easily carryable with high capacity in the G23, it's able to shoot .40 cal bullets fast enough to get the job done. For instance my 23 will shoot a 200gr hardcast to just over 1150 fps, a 29 would shoot around 100 fps faster, but both are plenty and the end result would be the same. Some like to say more is always better, but there are times when more be a little too much and result in less favorable performance.

 

[Mike-M]

...you can also get a 9mm barrel form Lone Wolf for your gun.

Then, you'll need to buy 9x19mm magazines...the .40SW magazines won't work. And there are no GLOCK OEM barrels that allow this.

In addition, 9x19mm is a definite degradation from .40SW and .357SIG performance.

I've never understood the popularity of 9x19mm, except to collectors of military pistols. There, it is better than 8mm Nambu.

 

[BBMW]

I don't see any advantage to the 357Sig vs the .40. Either against two or four legged threats. If you have bear issues, 10mm would be the minimum round to consider. I think you'd be better off with a .44 Mag or bigger revolver as a woods gun.

 

[Mike-M]

I don't see any advantage to the 357Sig vs the .40.

That's certainly an opinion, although provided without any rationale.

My G31Gen4 launches a 125 gr. bullet at a chronographed 1565 fps (energy 680 ft-lbf, ten feet from muzzle), using Underwood's JHP ammo. That exceeds the muzzle energy of all .40 SW loadings I've ever come across, although Underwood's 135 gr. JHP in .40SW comes close. That even exceeds the ME of most commercial 10mm Auto loadings, unless Underwood ammo or handloads are in use.

The .357SIG 125 gr. bullet trajectory is flatter than that of .40SW, and imparts less recoil momentum to the shooter than do most 165 or 180 gr. 40SW rounds.

Plus, current Glock OEM .357SIG barrels have excellent cartridge case support above the feed ramp, compared to current and especially early Glock OEM .40SW barrels.

I like .40SW...used it for 20 years now in a Glock and a Browning High Power. But I like the advantages of the .357SIG much better.

 

[tom mac]

Go with a G20 ... you can pick up 3 barrels that drop right in and use the orig mags too. They run a bit over $100 for each.
1)40s&w, 2)357 sig 3)9x25 dillion

 

[mikegun]

Thanks guys,, THIS IS WHAT I AM GOING TO DO, I have a 9mm barrel for my g23 and of course also a 40 cal barrel, I will add a 10 mil barrel to the above, this should be the best of all barrels....I done need the 357sig barrel just some hot 9mm+p+ ammo, this means I don't have to change gun sizes and I can defend agenst both 2 and 4 legged beasts../.

 

[RayB]

Thanks guys,, THIS IS WHAT I AM GOING TO DO, I have a 9mm barrel for my g23 and of course also a 40 cal barrel, I will add a 10 mil barrel to the above, this should be the best of all barrels....I done need the 357sig barrel just some hot 9mm+p+ ammo

Hi, Mike: :wavey:

As SDGlock23 pointed out, with the wide variety of loadings available, there is some "overlap" of performance between the calibers at their margins. :headscratch:

Me, I would not care to see a bear in the open sights of any sidearm... :wow:

If I'm following you, you're planning to add a 10 mm barrel for use with your G23, and I don't think that's going to work. :shakehead:

Caliber conversions with drop-in parts can be lateral (.40 S&W to .357 Sig) or slightly downward (.40 S&W to 9 mm), but never upward (.40 S&W to 10 mm), as you're intending to do. :whistling:

--Ray

 

[RayB]

I'm a fan of the 357 SIG.

I bought a G33 because it was a good deal and found out I like the caliber. Since then I bought two more guns chambered for the 357 SIG and have loaded several thousand rounds.

I rented a G33 back in 2006/2007 and posted here when I got home. I loved it! And by the time I'd left the range, I was producing my usual very good (at the time) targets with it, the best of which I saved. Sweet!

I also rented a G22 with about the same results, but I'd have to say that I liked the .357 Sig better; but that's entirely me. And I realize that it could have to do with several factors, from the ammo issued, to the condition of the gun, to what kind of a day I was having. I'd need a greater baseline of experience to ultimately make that call.

As a practical measure I decided to stick with .45 ACP, 9mm, and 10 mm (G21 conversion), the last of which I shoot very little of--but enjoy greatly!

If I were to add another Glock, it would likely be a G30SF or G30S. But I would not accept that crappy new flat finish.

If I were to get into reloading, I'd want a G29SF and a G20 Long-Slide.

--Ray

 

[RayB]

1) I've never understood the popularity of 9x19mm, except to collectors of military pistols.

2) There, it is better than 8mm Nambu.

1) Then Gaston's brainchild was but a misguided experiment? :shocked:

Many here would visit a pox upon your house for what you've said! :fist:

2) Or that ditzy 5.7 thingy... :miff:

--Ray

 

[Trapped_in_Kali]

Thanks guys,, THIS IS WHAT I AM GOING TO DO, I have a 9mm barrel for my g23 and of course also a 40 cal barrel, I will add a 10 mil barrel to the above, this should be the best of all barrels....I done need the 357sig barrel just some hot 9mm+p+ ammo, this means I don't have to change gun sizes and I can defend agenst both 2 and 4 legged beasts../.

No one makes a 10mm barrel for your G23, the mags are too short for 10mm or .45 & the frame & slide weren't designed for the higher power.

I run 10mm, .40S&W & .357Sig in my G20s with no problem using LW barrels.

 

[sig357fan]

I have carried my gen 2 G23 duty Glock for pretty much everything since retiring from the SO, simply because it ALWAYS works, I live in Colorado and spend my time fishing , camping and a little hunting am thinking of a 10mm or 357sig Glock to replace my G23 , Need some input??? change, done change?? which cal if any???? thanks guys,almost forgot, the worst thing ill run into is a bear, and im guessing you will say the 10mm slug will be best for this? if so ill get a G20...

Mikegun,

If I understand your first post, you have a Gen 2 23. I don’t believe that converting a Gen 2 Glock in 40 S&W to 357 SIG is advised. My understanding is that Glock beefed up the frame either at or shortly after the introduction of the 357 SIG models so Gen 2 frames may not be able to withstand the higher pressure of the 357 SIG round.

One option for 10mm is a 29, about the same size of your 23 and you’d be able to shoot 40 S&W out of it with a conversion barrel in 40 S&W and the stock 29 mags, you’d also be able to use the higher capacity mags for the 20 and I’ve seen posts on GT saying that some holsters for the 23 fit the 29.

Sig357fan

 

[happie2shoot]

No one makes a 10mm barrel for your G23, the mags are too short for 10mm or .45 & the frame & slide weren't designed for the higher power.

I run 10mm, .40S&W & .357Sig in my G20s with no problem using LW barrels.

+1 I have those and a 6'' 9mm barrel for my g20 and yes you
can use 40s&w and 10mm mags for the 9mm.

I also got a LW 45acp slide for the g20 with 45acp and 460
Rowland barrels.:wavey: