That video is a great example of how not to test ammo and seems more like an ad for Buffalo Bore.

The CBG stuff doesn't produce valid or meaningful test data—it's not a legitimate test medium.

Muzzle flash/signature has nothing to do with terminal ballistics.

While shooting "stuff" is fun, it shouldn't be confused with scientific methodology.

 

"Muzzle flash/signature has nothing to do with terminal ballistics. "

No chit, Cherlock. But reduced muzzle flash makes for better and more accurate follow up shots in an actual defensive shooting situation. 😗 That's why I like reloading magnum pistol cartridges with AA9 powder. A low flash powder not only reduces muzzle flash, it reduces muzzle Blast.

There are powders that will give you more velocity than AA9 such as H110/296, but the low flash characteristics and greater flexibility of AA9 makes it a better choice.

But as far as Buffalo Bore, one thing I really like about BB is that on tier website with most loads they give you the velocity taken from their test barrels but they also give you velocities taken from different barrel length guns.

I also like Underwood ammo because test velocities are almost Identical and UW is less expensive.

 

The shilling for BB lately has me wondering what's really going on there.

 

I'd not be one bit surprised if money was trading hands from smaller ammo manufacturers in an attempt to garner the interest and attention of the more "influential"—but not necessarily most knowledgeable—YT channels. Covert advertising by way of clickbait.

 

Who said anything about the test media? My point is the velocity and the 357 Sig designed bullets that do not fall apart upon impact at 1500+ velocities. I am sure these would perform very well in whatever type of gel they are shot into.

That YooToober might've convinced himself (and many others) that he is knowledgeable in the field of terminal ballistics, but his use of a material that has been proven to be an invalid soft tissue simulant by several independent researchers indicates that he doesn't know what he doesn't know. He might as well be shooting into mud or purple Play-Doh which would be just as "scientific".

There's really not much to see there—it's just another "low information" YT channel.

His interest is in the velocity and performance of the bullets. BB and Grizzly are the two top consistent high velocity performers so they get the most attention. The numbers don't lie.

Others see the obvious shilling that was pointed out earlier. Believe whatever you'd like. It's a free country.

 

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Watch him and his wife Kim on his you tube Chanel . He talks about this very subject.

 

When we did simunitions training I found that if the person wanted to kill the person with the flashlight , they did. The light was a dead giveaway and got the searching officer shot every time. Why now when I'm searching I only activate the flashlight when I've already identified a threat. Also , don't do the stupid tactical on and off with the light as all that does is ruin your night vision. If you turn it on then leave it on for the duration.

 

I think you might be in the wrong thread but I do very much agree with what you say.

 

Jesus, that load is smoking! 565 ft/lbs out of a G33?! 😲

I love Buffalo Bore, and I'm subscribed to their YouTube channel, but Tim Sundles seems to be a bit full of himself at times. But that's a minor complaint....I like the fact that it's still 100% owned by him, and not sold off to some nobody who doesn't care like Underwood.

And may I say: Underwood's website is awful. The description of each load is bland and barely helpful. They also don't list what gun they use to test, unlike Buffalo Bore.

 

With some detective work their barrel lengths can be discovered but that doesn't help the average buyer who is clueless what barrel length is used. Most just assume that the standard barrel length of 4 inches is used which causes a great deal of misunderstanding. Example Underwood uses a 6 inch barrel to get their 357 Magnum velocities and a 6 inch barrel to get their 9X25 Dillon velocities a 5 inch barrel for their 10mm and .45 velocities. Just sayin.

 

Tim Sundles is a scumbag but I can attest that Buffalo Bore advertised velocities match what I got out of my chrono when I was byuying it, however I would never buy from him again just on principle.

 

LOL I don't care what he is selling I have Underwood 357 Sig ammo from back when they loaded it to a true 1550 fps out of a G31 and used quality Gold Dot # 54234 bullets.

 

The first picture is one of my 10mm reloads 155gr xtp with a nearly max load of Ramshot silhouette, a flash suppressed powder. The second picture is of the same bullet with a max load of AA#9 a non flash suppressed powder. I had the lights in the indoor range turned way down for dark environment. Big difference.