[plumbum2]

Hey guys. Need some advice. I'm planning on getting the new g40. I want it basically for MI white tail deer. I wasn't planning on skimping out on the sight and was gonna go with a trijicon rmr.

I was more or less wondering what size/type dot to get? My farthest shot is about 30 -35yds basically wide open.

Thanks

 

[Hunters]

I have one on a 35 and it is the 3 moa. I like it for target shooting but haven't gone much past 25 yards. If you go to glock's site you can compare dot sizes. Go to the link I provided and scroll down until you see a target thru a optical sight. No problems with my RMR btw, I really like it.
http://us.glock.com/mos

 

[bikerdog]

For hunting the 3.25 Moa dot would be my preference. I would also strongly look at the adjustable one. I think it is the rmr06. I owned one and really liked it for target shooting. My only issue with it was when it was being carried it could sometimes get adjusted to low for fast deployment. Now all of my rmr guns rock the rmr02. Which is better for sd. But it's harder to make really accurate shots.


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[plumbum2]

For hunting the 3.25 Moa dot would be my preference. I would also strongly look at the adjustable one. I think it is the rmr06. I owned one and really liked it for target shooting. My only issue with it was when it was being carried it could sometimes get adjusted to low for fast deployment. Now all of my rmr guns rock the rmr02. Which is better for sd. But it's harder to make really accurate shots.


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Thanks guys! Well sounds like that one might be the ticket?

I'm setting this up as a hunting/target gun only. So I just need the most accuracy. I do agree with you on carry though.

Edit. Just saw this one. Is it new ? Adjustable 1.0moa
https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=RM09-C-700304

I understand that if the dot is to big at say 35yds it might be covering half the deer.

 

[bikerdog]

Thanks guys! Well sounds like that one might be the ticket?

I'm setting this up as a hunting/target gun only. So I just need the most accuracy. I do agree with you on carry though.

Edit. Just saw this one. Is it new ? Adjustable 1.0moa
https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=RM09-C-700304

I understand that if the dot is to big at say 35yds it might be covering half the deer.

That one is new to me. Last I heard the smallest was 3.25. 1moa dot is super small. The smallest that aimpoint has been able to get is 2moa.

If all I was looking for was accuracy I would probably strongly consider that 1 Moa dot.


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[Police Marksman]

The Leupold Deltapoint Pro is coming soon, with a 2.5 MOA dot. Might be a good choice!

http://www.leupold.com/tactical/scopes/deltapoint-reflex-sights/deltapoint-pro/

Or How about the Eotech Mini Red Dot with the 3.5 MOA dot!

http://www.eotechinc.com/holographic-weapon-sights/mini-red-dot-sight-mrds

 

[plumbum2]

Those would be an option also. I'm about 25min from eotech. Maybe they will let me check em out lol.

Being a gun that won't be shot a TON it would be nice not to drop $800 on just the sight. If it was carry piece no prob.

 

[pAZ Ron]

If you want to achieve co-witnessing your fixed sights, if that is possible on a Glock, you need to look at the thickness of the base of the red dot sight in relation to the height of your iron sight. Another big convenience factor is can the battery be changed without removing the sight from the gun.

I have both the Bushnell Fastfire III and the Trijicon RMR 06. Both are good sights. The FFIII battery changed w/o removing from gun, but I could not fully co-witness the fixed sights on the 2nd handgun I wanted to install it on. So it is now mounted on a muzzleloader.

The Trijicon RMR 06 let me co-witness on that handgun, but must be removed to replace the battery.

Both are 3 or 3.5 MOA dots. Beyond 50 yards, even that dot starts to obscure more and more target. I've shot the 3.5 moa dot out to 200 yards. At that distance it is faster but not necessarily more accurate than open sights. 50 yds and less it is faster and I am more accurate than with open sights.

 

[LeviSS]

I understand that if the dot is to big at say 35yds it might be covering half the deer.

You may be thinking backwards. Even an 8MOA dot would cover about 8" at 100yds, so at 50yds it would cover 4", and at 25yds it would cover 2"…approximately. It's not gonna cover the deer unless they're really tiny there.

 

[RonS]

I have the Burris FastFire III on a revolver and would not hesitate to use one on a Glock slide mount for hunting or range use if it had BUIS.

The only drawback to me was that it does not come back on when moved or when light hits the sensor, you have to press the button to turn it on. It has a screw on battery cover you access from the top and comes with a cover that you can leave on to shoot, shaped like a little covered bridge that overhangs the front and rear and provides shade to the sight and will keep light snow off of it. It has clear plastic to close off the front and back for more weather protection. Not weather tight, when I mean shelter I mean like a tent, not a submarine.

I spent $250 on it and like it for what it is, but not for a tactical, carry or HD gun due to the auto shut off, manual on mode.

The new Leupold is coming soon and I have seen pics of one with a built in adjustable rear sight so you could just match up the front sight for height and be good to go.

Good luck and have fun, I find that my red dot has really increased my desire to get out and shoot more.

 

[plumbum2]

In all honesty Im not worried about co witnessing the sights since this will not be a carry gun.

 

[plumbum2]

You may be thinking backwards. Even an 8MOA dot would cover about 8" at 100yds, so at 50yds it would cover 4", and at 25yds it would cover 2"…approximately. It's not gonna cover the deer unless they're really tiny there.

What I meant to say is that a bigger moa dot will cover more of the target at any yardage vs a smaller moa dot.

 

[bikerdog]

In all honesty Im not worried about co witnessing the sights since this will not be a carry gun.

If I were you I would still not completely rule out co witness. With co witnessed sights the dot is much much easier to find. And it's easier to keep under firing.

 

[Justin1911]

Rmr06 with the 3.25 dot. It's what I have. Honestly you can't tell the difference between it and the larger 6 moa dot model. I had some issues with mine holding zero but trijicon took care of it

For sights pretty much any suppressor height sights will do

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[blazinz]

The Leupold Deltapoint Pro is coming soon, with a 2.5 MOA dot. Might be a good choice!

http://www.leupold.com/tactical/scopes/deltapoint-reflex-sights/deltapoint-pro/



This would be my first choice.:supergrin:

 

[pAZ Ron]

Even an 8MOA dot would cover about 8" at 100yds, so at 50yds it would cover 4", and at 25yds it would cover 2"…approximately. It's not gonna cover the deer unless they're really tiny there.

My question LeviSS… have you tried one? I have, 2 different brands. I don't know if it is glare or whatever, but beyond a certain yardage, my experience says 50 yards and beyond, the visual effect is that it covers a larger part of target than you'd calculate based on the MOA's. Also they have different brightness settings. The lower the brightness setting, the smaller the dot appears to be.

 

[bikerdog]

My question LeviSS… have you tried one? I have, 2 different brands. I don't know if it is glare or whatever, but beyond a certain yardage, my experience says 50 yards and beyond, the visual effect is that it covers a larger part of target than you'd calculate based on the MOA's. Also they have different brightness settings. The lower the brightness setting, the smaller the dot appears to be.

His numbers are right. What you are seeing is called the "blooming" effect. When the brightness of the dot is dialed up it begins to "spill" over. This issue is magnified by eyesight. Even a slight astigmatism could amplify the size of the dot by twice it's size or greater.

That said even perfect eyesight will have an issue with "spill".

They recommend when shooting for the tightest groups possible to dial the dot down as low as you can while still having the dot visible.

I have found that I can normally see the target through the dot because I have the brightness that low.


= the lower the better for precision.

 

[bikerdog]

Rmr06 with the 3.25 dot. It's what I have. Honestly you can't tell the difference between it and the larger 6 moa dot model. I had some issues with mine holding zero but trijicon took care of it

For sights pretty much any suppressor height sights will do

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I know the earlier gens of LED RMR's had issue keeping zero on slides. From what I have heard and seen that issue has been corrected.

 

[Deltaelite10mm]

I have one on a 35 and it is the 3 moa. I like it for target shooting but haven't gone much past 25 yards. If you go to glock's site you can compare dot sizes. Go to the link I provided and scroll down until you see a target thru a optical sight. No problems with my RMR btw, I really like it.
http://us.glock.com/mos

Thanks for the glock website

 

[Thunderflight]

Hey guys. Need some advice. I'm planning on getting the new g40. I want it basically for MI white tail deer. I wasn't planning on skimping out on the sight and was gonna go with a trijicon rmr.

I was more or less wondering what size/type dot to get? My farthest shot is about 30 -35yds basically wide open.

Thanks

I went with a dual illum rmr08G green triangle. The triangle is the same size width as the trijicon suppressor sights and they Co witness perfectly. How far you going to shoot anyway? I can also use tip of triangle for precise shots.