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Belt for USPSA & IDPA?

9.8K views 21 replies 11 participants last post by  9x45  
#1 ·
I'm trying to find a belt and mag holders that would work for either sport (if one exists). The more research I do, the more confused I become. I'm going to try both disciplines this year and I'm not sure if I'll like 1 sport more then the other or maybe I'll continue with both. I could use some suggestions.

I tried searching for previous posts, but I must not be using the correct key words.
 
#2 ·
I dont know if this will help you but https://www.doublealpha.biz/us/belts
Thing is IDPA rules on what belt you can use is going to be different than USPSA where you can have a racey type setup, so if you like both you will probably end up with two rigs one for each specific sport.

That said you could get a good leather belt than can be used for carry if nothing else and put your holster and mag carriers on that for each sport to try it out.
 
#3 ·
In USPSA you want a double layer belt you can strap your gear to and leave there, then you can just velcro it on at matches and everything is in the same place.
For IDPA, and sturdy belt is fine.

It's funny, I was shooting IDPA for the first time in about 9 months on Jan 1, and we were all joking about how much longer it took us to "gear up" compared to USPSA, even though there is less stuff in IDPA.
 
#4 ·
IDPA belt and holster are more restricted. You can use your IDPA rig in USPSA, probably with a couple of extra magazine carriers. I do, but then I am not real fast on the draw anyhow and a skeleton speed rig is not going to help me much. It did in my younger years before IDPA came along, but that belt and holster were damaged in The Incident, smoke and water, mostly.
 
#7 ·
Fanny packs are not allowed in IDPA. For both games, use a Wilderness Tactical Instructors belt.

8.5 Holsters
The following criteria apply to IDPA legal holsters.
A. Must be suitable for all day concealed carry, and worn on each stage regardless of the start position.
A. Must be a strong side hip holster worn inside the waistband (IWB) or outside the waist band.
 
#9 ·
Yeah I just use a wilderness five stitch for both games. Idpa and uspsa once I am geared up for Stage 1 I am good for the day. No need to reconfig during the match with just a pistol and mag pouches.

For 3 gun I break out the inner and outer belt since I often need to reconfigure between stages.
Basically adding shell caddys for shotgun stages.

Fanny packs are not allowed in IDPA. For both games, use a Wilderness Tactical Instructors belt.

8.5 Holsters
The following criteria apply to IDPA legal holsters.
A. Must be suitable for all day concealed carry, and worn on each stage regardless of the start position.
A. Must be a strong side hip holster worn inside the waistband (IWB) or outside the waist band.
 
#8 · (Edited)
We used to have a handicapped shooter in a wheel chair shoot with us, he used a left hand holster fixed to the right inside of his chair and did work well for him we dared our local nit picker to make a negative comment about it, he did not but we know he would have if not told not to, shooting was James only hobby and heaven forbid anyone try to go negative on that, James usually had the least points down of anyone, if movement was needed our match director moved his chair for him. He always had a great time and a great person also. We ALL would never ever consider giving him anything as points down per IDPA and took it as an insult to see it in the IDPA rules, he shoots his way 100% and we all agreed to this, health finally forced him to only shoot in the cooler months now, he is the best!

Just seeing the giving a chair bound shooter a penalty just conforms my choice to drop IDPA more, much more! No way heck I would give him a break to deduct points just for coming to shoot!
 
#10 ·
We used to have a handicapped shooter in a wheel chair shoot with us, he used a left hand holster fixed to the right inside of his chair and did work well for him we dared our local nit picker to make a negative comment about it, he did not .
That's because it's not against the rules....

7 PERMANENTLY PHYSICALLY DISABLED SHOOTER (PPDS) RULES
For IDPA purposes, a permanently physically disabled shooter is defined as having:
A. Missing limbs or partial limbs.
B. Prosthetic limbs.
C. Non-operational limbs.
D. Use of wheelchair, walker or crutches.
In an effort to accommodate our PPDS, the following rules apply.
A. PPDS who choose not to, or are unable to perform an action required by the CoF (kneeling, prone, etc.) will
receive 1 PE penalty per action not performed. If the targets cannot be acquired from their position of ability,
points down will be assessed but no PEs for engagement will be assessed.
B. PPDS with the use of only one arm or hand may elect to use a light mounted on the firearm prior to the start
signal, with no penalty, on all stages if within the match there is a stage that requires the use of a flashlight.
C. PPDS who are one-armed/one-handed will not be penalized on a stage that requires shooting either weak hand
or strong hand.
D. PPDS may perform one-handed reloads in a manner that is deemed safe by the MD prior to the start of the
match.
E. PPDS who are confined to a wheelchair may use whatever means they choose to navigate the CoF in their
wheelchair, including a pushing assistant. However, the requirement(s) chosen must be used for every CoF in
the match.
F. Use of a body mounted or wheelchair mounted holster and/or ammunition carriers are permitted.
G. Firearms may be re-holstered between shooting positions.
H. One-handed firearm control throughout a CoF is permitted.
I. Shooters may forego usage of a concealment garment.
Shooters who suffer from hearing loss may request an alternate non-audible start signal.
IDPA Headquarters may issue individual waivers to allow physically disabled shooters to use alternate or specially
designed equipment to suit their individual abilities.
PPDS status is based on Honor System. Those who misrepresent their PPDS status will be disqualified.
 
#11 ·
We have/had 1 shooter that we found out was not even a club member nit pick ever rule he could and act as if he owned the place, not a very popular person constantly looking for something to complain about, several including myself have had words with him. We let our handicapped shooter shoot how he wished and needed to, NO POINTS DOWN for anything having to do with being handicapped at all we agreed by all there many times we asked them, we finally dropped IDPA after many years due to some stupid rules they adopted, all agreed to that and we have what we call common sense rules, most all members dropped IDPA membership also, for instance on our nit picker I have 2 G17's I like shooting both of them and do so he complained I switched guns, and was asked why they were the same model, I came here to have a good time done ruin that! I shoot only against myself, my match winning days are a memory to me, old body and eyes, but nobody beats me in the enjoyment class.
 
#12 ·
Why didn't you just ban the guy? Not even a club member? Was he even an IDPA member or Certified Safety Officer? I already know the answer, it's NO, otherwise he wouldn't be *****ing about stuff that he doesn't know the rule for!

Yeah, IDPA has pretty much come and gone due to "rule" improvements.
 
#13 ·
I agree but not in charge to do so those that are just don't wish to start anything negative. Thankfully he is only a fair weather shooter and has not showed up in awhile.
James our handicapped shooter tries harder than any not to infringe on any rule, the best person anyone could ever know. We let him shoot HIS way all he wants to, he is a model to all there. Dare anyone to complain about him.
 
#15 ·
I was a very die hard IDPA shooter and member along time, they ran me off after I shot my 1st IPSC match there was no going back to IDPA same as shooting a DUEL match in the Army no more bullseye ever. Myself and most I know still shoot just no IDPA for many years now. I know of 30+ club members checking NO on sheet when entering are you an IDPA member, most all were. I do look at sheets separating them for scoring. All for it and did lots of good but stupid rules were a joke. Just moved on to better things for ME.
 
#18 ·
I was a very die hard IDPA shooter and member along time, they ran me off after I shot my 1st IPSC match .
That's USPSA in the US, IPSC is for the European Hoser's, well and Canadians and Aussies and all of Asia and South America. But if you do actually want to shoot an IPSC match, in the US, to IPSC rules, there is the US IPSC Nationals at Frostproof ,FL. Otherwise it's all USPSA....

You hang out at Collin County USPSA? That's a really nice club.

https://uspsa.org/
 
#17 · (Edited)
Per the IDPA talk we have only 1 ONE club member left that is an IDPA member where most all were the rules ran them off myself included and better matches now for sure, it served it's purpose though, I am so used to our common sense type matches others would be hard to go back to for sure. So many so much better to shoot and makes sense to do so.
 
#19 ·
I do not but used to shoot with Collin Co at the old range that was closed on 380 E of McKinney I have not since they closed it, I shot the IPSC as they called it in Ferris, Cleburne, Ft Cambell all steel 500 rounds in 3 days 200-200 100 multi gun, Nashville, Rat Tail, Natchez Trace, Hendersonville, Goodlettsville and a few others, I never knew any different, but sure liked it. That was prior to eye surgery and other medical things when I could still move and see ok now have much more fun. Not sure what honestly our matches here are called we call them common sense matches. Thanks------

Probably the DUEL military matches were my most enjoyable. Now into shooting an 8" AR 9mm and loving it.
 
#20 ·
https://benstoegerproshop.com/uspsa-essentials-holster-belt-mag-pouch-rig/

I bought this package plus an extra mag pouch for USPSA. I keep my load mag in my back pocket with four mags on the belt.

For IDPA, I don't use the inner belt, and I run the outer belt through my belt loops. I remove the four mag pouches and clip on a cheap double mag pouch. Since I don't yet use the drop offset holster, running it on the belt works for both USPSA and IDPA.

I started out in competition with three IDPA matches. Then tried out USPSA for a a few matches. Then, went back to IDPA for one match. I've decided that I prefer USPSA and probably won't do IDPA again. YMMV.
 
#21 ·
Current idpa rules allow any 1 3/4" belt that can pass thru at least two belt loops.
We pretty much dont enforce rigid equip rules at the clubs I shoot. Sanctioned matches are pretty much by the book.
I've been a cso at nats & worlds, also,a SOI, so pretty specific on rules but local club matches are for learning imo, nothing for winning it. So we bend rules quite abit with new shooters. Though I have worked with rule nazis that look for every reason to penalize or dq a shooter. They dont last long on my team in a sanctioned match.
A lot of uspsa shooters complain about idoa rules, but uspsa has more rules. So its just shooting within the rules. Btw, I agree on the ppds, they shouldnt recieve penelties because the md didnt design stages with cutouts for them. A huge pet peeve of mine at sanctioned matches. So no, I dont give P for such stupidity.