...only a few were shooting Glocks today. I asked the guy why and he said they are too light.

I guess they must have had a lot of "limp wristing" problems then.

Seemed like most were shooting 2011 or CZs.

Are those "2011" pistols more modern than 1911 clones?

Muzzle-heaviness is a very positive characteristic for handgun marksmanship. What you describe puts weight distribution to the rear...not good!

I hate to think what pouring molten lead would do to the grip polymer.

 

I guess they must have had a lot of "limp wristing" problems then.

Are those "2011" pistols more modern than 1911 clones?

Muzzle-heaviness is a very positive characteristic for handgun marksmanship. What you describe puts weight distribution to the rear...not good!

I hate to think what pouring molten lead would do to the grip polymer.

You have never shot any competition, have you?

They are not limp wristing, these guys are shooters. They have the fundamentals down: stance, grip, sight picture and trigger control, followed by transitions and movement. you don't get that shooting from a bench at a box target in an indoor range. The reason CZ's and SIG X5's and trimmed down Shadow 2's are used is because they are at or near the allowed weight limit. More weight, less recoil event, less sight rock and roll, faster back on target.

Muzzle heaviness sucks in competition because it dips too much. Again, from the bench, who cares, but when you are trying to rip off .15 splits, it's not good. This isn't breath and squeeze , it's grip it and rip it. Weight should be right in the middle of the palm.

Well, lead melts at about 620F and Nylon 6 at about 520F. But anyone could cast a plaster slug and then a female mold of the plug and then pour a lead plug. Or you could but a brass Seatle slug (3.5 ounces) or a ThugPlug (2.4 ounces) and just shove it in.

USPSA isn't one round every 10 seconds..... And by the way, this guy is better than average USPSA shooter, but their are thousands that are way, way faster.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjLJBc3rQJ4

 

What division are you shooting? I believe production is only 4 oz above factory weight allowed, which once you add metal sights and maybe grip tape allows some but not that much leeway.

As for the weight, I’ve heard of people using tungsten powder for golf clubs or lead shot, but not sure how they are securing it on both ends. Not much help I’m afraid but wanted to tag thread anyway.

 

I plan to shoot carry optics. I had done idpa in the past. It seems uspsa is more focused on speed.

 

If you have never shot a USPSA match before, the allowed weight addition for CO will make no difference. And yes, a 2011 is a much better gun for USPSA Open, Limited and L10 than a plain old 1911.

 

The reason for this question is I checked out our local USPSA match today and only a few were shooting Glocks today. I asked the guy why and he said they are too light. Seemed like most were shooting 2011 or CZs.

So was this "guy" you asked one of those "steel or nothing" 1911 guys? How old was he? Ask one of those "guys" shooting the Glocks what they did to "weigh down" their Glocks.

I call total BS.

 

There are far more 2011's and 1911's overall in USPSA, especially in Open (STI @ 34%/ SVI 13%, the 5 remaining 1911 platforms making up the rest, Glocks @ 0%), Limited and L10 (STI @ 39%/SVI @ 10% and Glocks at 6%). There are more CZ's/Tanfolio's in Production than Glocks (48%/20%% vs 11%). There are more SIGs and CZs (30%/28% vs 16%) in Carry Optics than Glocks. And because Single Stack Division must be a 1911 platform, there are of courses, 0% Glocks. From the 2018 Nationals Survey of the USPSA Front Sight magazine. The greatest number of USPSA shooters is still in Open and Limited.

SureThing, so your guy was absolutely right. There are far, far, far more 1911/2011's and CZ's than Glocks. Course he, and you, and all competition shooters would know that because they actually shoot USPSA! Everyone else is either just guessing or talking about local action (non-sanctioned) matches or GSSF.

The other platforms have two great advantages over Glocks, besides better ergo. Near maximum division weight and super light short reset triggers. BUT the Glock does have one single advantage. They live pretty much forever. One of mine just rolled past 300,000 rounds, and we have a Gen 1 G17 at the academy that is over 1,000,000 rounds. I have yet to see any other platform get to that mileage.

 

Thank you for the information. Makes me wonder what Non gssf competition the 34 is good for. The one dude who I talked the most was getting rid of his sig 320 for a ppq steel framed.

 

It still works for USPSA Production Division and IDPA SSP Division, but the CZs are heavier.

 

SureThing, to the original weight question. Carry Optics is basically Production but with a dot and a Limited length magazine. The allowed modifications are far fewer that Open, Limited and L10. The weight limit was recently increased to 45 ounces, including dot and empty mag. The bare G34 weights in at 26 ounces, so there is allot of weight to be added. But frame weights are specifically not allowed, so there is not much else except heavy guide rods and butt plugs.

So guess which gun is the closet to the weight limit? Well, gosh, the Sig XFive of course, at 43.5 ounces, how convenient.... By the way, Max Michel runs a Romeo3MAX 30mm with a 6 MOA dot, which weights in at? You got it, 1.5 ounces. I wonder where that number came from???? It used to be 35 ounces, until the XFive came along....

 

And the XFive comes with the grip weight as I recall, haven't kept up too much except also the new tungsten-infused polymer frame sorcery.... The X Carry frame has a slot in the grip's rear to insert a grip weight as well.

 

I shoot USPSA 4-6 times a month, depending on the weather, at 5 different area clubs which average 60-150 shooters a match. My squad is all LEO (OC, SB, Riverside, LA and San Diego Sheriffs, local PDs, Customs, BP, FAMS, and a couple of FBI guys). We are usually 8-15, depending on who gets called in the weekend. Only myself and one other cop shoot Glocks. The rest shoot STI's/CZ's. One OC guy shoots an M&P with a dot, which is his SWAT duty gun. However, everyone else carries a Glock on duty, for backup and for off duty carry. That's really where the Glock shines.

 

Not to open a can of worms but I struggle going back and forth with different grip angles. Can others go back and forth with ease.

 

No, not really. You just have to get at least 2 dozen matches down, including practice, to get on it.

 

Beyond USPSA... I don't like the looks of an empty hole Glock grip... My G19/G45 have a plug that is solid metal to increasing the weight to the bottom of the frame which is supposed to add stability with better balance control so you could get less recoil when back on target. I found it very helpful.

 

Thank

Beyond USPSA... I don't like the looks of an empty hole in the Glock grip... I got a plug that is solid metal to increasing the weight to the bottom of the frame which is supposed to add stability so you could get less recoil when back on target. I found it very helpful.

you for the info.

 

Forget all that, here is the new bomb gun for USPSA. Only $4,400 pre ordered.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjQk244oW9c

 

If I was good. It would be fun to run it with a hi point

 

Sure, here is the web site for competition shooters. There are only a few on GT, but Benos is all Hoser's


https://forums.brianenos.com/forum/6-uspsaipsc-shooting/

 

If you're acclimated to the 34 and posting these questions, it's not holding you back in production.

 

A heavy old school all metal dive watch will have the same effect, and you look good afterwards too.

Are there competition rules against wearing wrist weights?

 

There is no rule against it, but there is no advantage to it either. It's gun that recoils.

 

Good info 9X45.