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As great as the 125-grain HST, Gold Dot, and Golden Saber are I keep instinctively feeling that the 147-grain JHP round is ideal for .357sig caliber.

I would really like to see the above-mentioned ammo makers offer their premium rounds in the 140 - 160 grain bullet weights. Just like 115-grain 9mm rounds are not my first choice for self-defense (although unquestionably proven effective) I think that a slightly heavier .357sig round that's been proven effective would be a win/win for this caliber.
 
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This is a Great round.

I run it through a 5.3" LWD Bbl. in my G23... at >1300 fps and ~ 570 lb-ft.

This price puts it in the .357 Magnum range.

Got a case.




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I'd buy a box if I ran upon some.
Ten dollars a box is a good price for this ammo, but then since The Donald's election I've noticed ammo prices are coming back to Earth. (At least until Second Comrade pulls another in-your-face-America stunt on his way out of office.)

If I didn't already have a goodly supply of this particular round I'd spring for it. Sheesh, if Gold Dot, HST, or Golden Saber was offered at $10/box I'd jump on it.
 
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357SIG/147 gr. HDY XTP - $9.99/20 box at CDNN

This is a very good deal on the best 357SIG field ammo available.
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You can get this same 147gr XTP bullet from Underwood Ammo loaded to get a real world velocity of 1250+ fps vs the Hornady version which is always much less than the 1225 advertised velocity. Since woods carry is one of the purposes of this bullet I always go with the more powerful choice. The price however is good if that is your priority.
 
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You can get this same 147gr XTP bullet from Underwood Ammo loaded to get a real world velocity of 1250+ fps vs the Hornady version which is always much less than the 1225 advertised velocity. Since woods carry is one of the purposes of this bullet I always go with the more powerful choice. The price however is good if that is your priority.
I don't think Underwood loads the same bullet.

The HDY Custom 147 gr. bullet is proprietary, essentially a heavier constructed "FP" version, w/ a cannelure cut into it for crimping, to prevent set-back.


It is not in their catalog.

And, given that, I would need to see some testing on the Underwood offering, because the lighter constructed "HP" 9mm offering would be explosive at 357SIG velocities.




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I don't think Underwood loads the same bullet.
I cannot say what bullets Underwood loads but I can confirm I purchased Double Tap Gold Dots and Fiocchi XTP .357sig rounds and both were loaded with 124-grain 9mm bullet designs instead of the 125-grain .357sig Speer and Hornady proprietary bullets.

Then again, I lucked into some Bitterroot Valley Ammunition Company first run 125-grain Gold Dots that run around 1300 fps but all the components were Speer, including the 6-petal 125-grain .357sig bullet. I paid $40 for 100 rounds and still have about 20 left. In a (future) G-43/Shield size pistol I'd rather carry .357sig than 9mm and this round would likely be the low-recoil ammo option in that configuration.
 
I think the S&B 140 FMJ is a better woods load. They do have hard primers though. I shot 100 last night, about 50 through a Glock 32 and all went boom first time. My old G3 23 with 32 barrel would fail to fire about 10% which is why I was shooting those mostly through my hammer fired Sigs and HK's.
 
I think the S&B 140 FMJ is a better woods load. They do have hard primers though. I shot 100 last night, about 50 through a Glock 32 and all went boom first time. My old G3 23 with 32 barrel would fail to fire about 10% which is why I was shooting those mostly through my hammer fired Sigs and HK's.
I think the Underwood 125gr FMJ round with 600+ ft/lbs of energy would be a kick a.. woods round. At least there are no questions about how it would perform and it has plenty of energy to get the job done, more than the XTP or S&B rounds.
 
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Well...

A heavily constructed, heavy-for-caliber bullet, that expands to .50 caliber, and also penetrates in excess of 18"? Is fine by me.

Which also brings this HDY XTP round to light:




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