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For those of you who have installed aftermarket slides and/or complete uppers for your glocks, what has your experience been?

Any regrets (cost, reliability, durability...)?

Was it worth it?

There seems to be a many options out there (Zafferi, Zev, PSA...) and they look cool. But, should I just stay with the OEM glock slide (MOS and non MOS) or is it worth it to buy the cool looking ones?

I'm looking at getting a complete aftermarket upper for fun at the range and a front runner is a PSA complete slide. But I don't want to give up reliability if there are issues in that area since it could possibly be used for self defense someday. Should I get one or just keep spending on ammo 😁 ?
 
In gen3, LWD for blanks, Primary Machine for optic ready, mostly PM for milling. Very worthwhile and generally better than OEM.

My stuff is about function, not looks, so can't really comment on looks. Most of my Glocks are built from parts, so in most cases I do the whole gun rather than just an upper.

I guess the exception would be my old dry fire 34. It was used as a stand-alone gun for 5 years or so. Late in that period, I had a dot slide milled to play with on my main production 34. When I moved to Tanfo, I started using the dot slide on the dry lower, which has a reset trigger.

There's not as much advantage to having a reset trigger with a DA/SA gun. The dry dot 34 configuration is more of a visual tool.
 
Was it worth it?

I'm looking at getting a complete aftermarket upper for fun at the range. But I don't want to give up reliability if there are issues in that area since it could possibly be used for self defense someday. Should I get one or just keep spending on ammo 😁 ?
I found it wasn't worth it. $200 ish or so for a slide, another $50 ish on parts, another $100 on a barrel, then the whole expense with sights (usually $100.) I am not even going to get into optics. I am into a new blue label Glock at that point. I found that I generally keep my Glocks OEM (minus the sights, either Trijicon HDs or Ameriglo Agents on personal Glocks, duty/off duty run trijicon/glock 3-dot night sights.)

Range gun? Save the labor and tinkering (unless you like to tinker) and buy a dedicated range gun.

Glock stays OEM for carry, and you have a separate range gun for having fun.

My 1911s fall into the range category, Glocks stay in the carry category (with exception to the 17L, that is discussion piece.)

On a side note, having a race ready slide is only half the battle, need the race ready lower also (gas pedal, competition trigger, magwell, and so forth.)

Or get more ammo and run the stock Glock as well as the race gun folks.
 
Total opposite, I just bought a Dagger slide complete for my 19 and it works perfect. The only change was it shot low so I replaced the front sight with a lower sight I had in my parts on hand. Nothing against the oem slide I wanted to get the complete dagger but couldn't justify $300. for another gun sitting in my safe. I have the new slide in service now and may shift back to the oem at some time. The gun still fits all my holsters. I ran 80 rds thru it without any errors. I spent $125.
 
I came by a complete Gen 3 G19 body at a good price years ago, so I bought a Lone Wolf slide and KKM barrel to complete the gun. It works fine, but I’ve never felt its truly reliable because the slide isn’t OEM. If I had it to do over, I’d buy a complete Glock slide.
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I generally stay stock with a few enhancement/upgrades, $0.25 trigger job, "-" connector, mid weight striker spring and sights.

any carry gun, once set up the way I like it, gets a 500 round "burn down", 500 rounds of European import 124 gr. FMJ (NATO spec), lube as needed but no cleaning, if it makes it thru that with out a hick up, I figure I'm GTG with a cleaned/maintained side arm with the amount of ammo I carry.

a few years ago I got the "build a Glock" bug and built a Gen 3-17 for range use from all aftermarket parts, my first RDS handgun.

  • Gray Ghost Precision frame
  • Swenson MSO slide
  • Aim Surplus TIN coated/threaded barrel
  • Vortex Venom RDS

I've got a couple thousand rounds thru it, runs like a Swiss watch but it did take some tinkering to get to 100 % reliability.

what I learned in the process:

frame and slide work well together, pretty good fit for products not made in the same house, not sloppy but no drag or tight spots.

slide limited me to two RDS, Vortex Venom, or the Burris FastFire III, I've since learned that I prefer Holosun's dot/circle recital and just about every firearm I have with a RDS has either a HS510, HS507C or a HS 507K

the original internals (cheaper aftermarket) were at best "hinky", captured RSA turned into an uncaptured RSA at one point and was an unexpected surprise during a field strip ( I still haven't found the end of the guide rod) , no matter what springs I changed out or how much I polished the internals, I couldn't get rid of the gritty, mushy trigger and even when I got it to the best I could, it was inconsistent in pull characteristics, one pull would very light with little or no wall, other times it would have a harder pull with what felt like internals rubbing/friction.

Aim Surplus barrel was a pleasant surprise, it was a compromise due to it being the only barrel available at the time and I had planned to get a better barrel at some point in the future but it fit well in the slide and gives one ragged hole at 15 yards off the bench with just about any ammo I feed it so its a keeper.

so my take a way's are:

- that the fit between frame, slide and barrel are key, make sure those three components work together before going further with your build.

- don't skimp on internals, I've since replace all the internals for both the slide and frame with Glock parts.

- less expensive parts may not necessarily be cheaper parts as in my Aim Surplus barrel, check review of the particular parts on different web sites so buyer be ware.

a build may be more expensive and perceived as better parts but doesn't mean better than stock, I'd build another handgun if I perceived a need that wasn't available in a stock firearm.

I do build most of my ARs, mainly because I can save money getting exactly what I want in a build as apposed to buying a stock AR and swapping parts, plus we're back to that tinkering aspect.
 
I’ve had Lone Wolf (stainless G34 length with .357 SIG barrel) but sold it as it was just an extra that came with a 35 I bought. No issues with it but any issues may have been addressed by the former owner.

Brownell’s/Swenson G19 and G17 slides with Swenson barrels when I was first playing around with “building”. They functioned fine but the finish was bland and one of them came with some sort of powder blocking the hole for the extractor plunger. It was simple to solve but at first I was WTH?

Currently have 3 ZEV slides. One is a solid slide and the others were cut for RMR/HOLOSUN footprint on my red dots. I like the columns ZEV left for the mounting screws. I have one on a 17 that I’ve shot enough to sight in the dot and another on a 19x I bought and the previous owner had docked up the slide trying to have it milled for direct mount of a red dot.

The one on the 19X has a couple thousand rounds through it; all the internals are factory Glock and it hasn’t given me any problems. I’ve used it enough that I trust it as my duty gun and mounted a TLR 1-HL on it.

I don’t have any blinged up slides but I admit I’ve thought about a gold slide and pin set just for the hell of it.
 
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I have been VERY pleased with the Lone Wolf slides on my G23 and G27. I have been using these for about 10 years in competitions. These days mostly 'Action Pistol' as I age... :rolleyes:

The G27 was intitially an issue, but a judicious session with a fine flat basterd file took care of the issue - just a little ding from the factory is all it was and it runs just fine.

Got hooked on 'press check' serrations on my limited pistols... and the Lone Wolf slides were just what I wanted.

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If you're looking at cost you're better off sticking to OEM and keeping a measure of reliability. If you're looking for something special then by all means you have options. Personally I stay away from some of the cheaper and questionable makers. But the notion that Glock somehow holds some secret that nobody can figure out to making an aftermarket build work reliably is complete crap.
 
For aftermarket slides I have an L2D Combat Catalyst slide and threaded barrel for a 19.3 and a Brownell's 19.3 (long slide) and threaded barrel. Both setups have treated me really well. I'm not a fan at all of the MOS. The OEM Glocks that I have with the MOS I never plan on running optics on. Both my L2D and Brownell's slides have RMR cuts. The L2D has been sporting an RMR for a couple years now. Eventually my Brownells will, as well as, an OEM 35.3 slide I had an RMR cut done on. Been just as happy with my aftermarket slides as I am with my half a dozen OEM slides. All my frames are OEM.
 
While they are cool/pretty. It really depends on what you’re trying for. Mine are all OEM part’s except for cosmetic BS. Glocks are great and all but I bought a Glock for functionality. I bought a 1911 to show off lol. Not that my 1911 is not very functional but DAMN it’s pretty.
 
Mine have been just as good. 100% reliable. PSA Dagger, Kineti-Tech, Matrix Arms and KM Tactical used so far. With options and cost of these today I see no reason why someone would send their Glock slide out to be milled when can grab a 2nd slide instead for about same cost.


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"With options and cost of these today I see no reason why someone would send their Glock slide out to be milled when can grab a 2nd slide instead for about same cost."


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I can agree with that. Certainly more cost effective. I had my OEM 35.3 slide cut for an RMR. But then again, at least at the time, there weren't very many aftermarket 35 slides out there. Idk what's new on the block now. At the time I did I ordered it stripped from the Glockstore and had them machine it for me before I got it. I was doing a build from the ground up to be a long slide chambered in 357 Sig in hopes to play with it at distance. Glock doesn't offer anything like that. Whatever a guy wants is at his expense I guess.
 
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Combat Armory Faux 19 with Unity Tactical “Atom” slide
19x with ZEV slide
17 with ZEV slide

The Faux 19 is a complete “build”, the 19x has the slide because the original owner docked up the 19x slide beyond repair and the 17 was a first foray into a dot gun and I had the extra frame.
 
The few Zev slides have been ok and I wouldn't have any worries carrying one, but I only use oem parts kits in them. But I still prefer my oem slides milled by ATEi. The optic pockets are better when milled tightly to the specific optic body measurements versus the universal cuts like on the Zevs. Plus I prefer rear sight moved forward of the optic when I have a choice and don't get that on the Zevs.
 
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