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Hi everyone. I am new to these forums and this is my first post. Thank you for taking the time to read it. I am a new owner of a glock 19.
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My first handgun.

I bought it as a graduation gift to myself, a bit prematurely because I don't graduate physical therapy school until May. However, I just finished all of my coursework and I wanted to beat the new California ammo laws that are going into effect in 2018, which are going to drive up the cost of ammunition. I would like to use online ordering to stock up while I can.

I am attempting to consolidate my ammo purchase in the most practical way. A friend recommend 9 PPU as good quality range ammo ($10/50rounds). I was just about to order a bunch of it but than I read that 9 PPU has "pressure levels higher than SAMMI Spec" essentially making it a +P round. My question is, for ~5 dollars more per box of 50 rounds I could order 9BPLE as range ammo. I like the idea of stocking up on the 9BPLE because it can also serve as a decent defensive round. My main defensive round will likely be the 147 HST, based on price and the ballistic tests/reviews I have read.

I am aware that 9BPLE is +P+ and the implications (wear and tear) of regularly shooting this stuff, but from all that I have read the pressures of 9BPLE equivalent (or less than?) a +P round. So essentially, if I am choosing between two +P rounds, the 9BPLE can serve as range ammo and a defensive round.

Anybody have any insight? I have read quite a few threads where advice is given not to shoot +p+ in high quantities, then somebody comes back and claims that their glock 19s eat it up with no issue. Anecdotes, I am aware.

Thank you in advance.
 
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Welcome to the forum. You are about to get 1K recommendations and all are going to be right. For range time I shoot new brass Federal, Fiocchi, S&B, and Speer Lawman FMJ in 115gr and/or 124gr. I don't like +P but that's just me, so for SD I like 124gr Federal Hydra-Shok JHP, Hornady XTP & FTX, Speer Gold Dot GDHP, and Federal 147gr HST.
 
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For range use, I use pretty much whatever I can find at the best price. My guns seem to like 124 gr ammo better than 115 gr, but I will use whatever works. For defensive use, the 115 gr 9BPLE is a good load, but again my guns seem to favor WW 127 gr +P+ Ranger, so I keep a few boxes around. Neither load, in moderate volume, will be a problem for a gun designed for NATO loads which usually run higher pressure than +P.
 
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Russell Lang said:
For range use, I use pretty much whatever I can find at the best price. My guns seem to like 124 gr ammo better than 115 gr, but I will use whatever works. For defensive use, the 115 gr 9BPLE is a good load, but again my guns seem to favor WW 127 gr +P+ Ranger, so I keep a few boxes around. Neither load, in moderate volume, will be a problem for a gun designed for NATO loads which usually run higher pressure than +P.
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Moderate use pretty much sums up the amount of shooting that I will be doing, until I get out of school and sign up for a defensive pistol class.

Just curious, how do your guns favor those other loads? Mostly accuracy or feeding or what?
 
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federal 9bple is great ammo. Police force used it for years and was a proven manstopper. I wouldn't worry too much about the +p+ thing either. even though it's listed as +p+ it's barely 37,500 psi, which is under the 38,000 psi SAAMI specs , making it just on the hot end of +P. I have no idea why they call it +P+ really, as it's just in line with +P, but whatever. I use the regular federal 9BP all the time (non + version) and it feeds in every gun I have like butter
 
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9BPLE is actually slightly lower in power factor than current Federal HST +P loadings, so from a wear and tear standpoint you are not going to be subjecting your gun to any more than current modern +P loadings.

The 9BPLE round has a good record on the street with LE agencies around the country. On the other hand, there are more modern loads that may be better from a terminal ballistics standpoint.

I think I would stock up on the best priced major manufacturers FMJ of 124gr or greater for practice and go to Bone Frog Gun Club and buy as much Federal HST in 124gr or 147gr your budget allows and use that as my carry ammo. Another good SD load are Gold Dots, BFGC carries that as well.

SGAmmo online is also a good place for volume priced ammo.

Congrats on your upcoming graduation. A physical therapist gave me back my full range of motion of my shoulder after a rotator cuff tear last winter. Noble profession.

Good luck.
 
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Winchester Ranger 127 +P+ in my wife's G19 and she can shoot it very well. Mine likes 124 +P Gold Dots. These loads shoot to point of aim in both pistols.

I wouldn't hesitate to use Fed 115 +P+ if it shoots to point of aim. I do use it in other pistols, like Steyr and practice with WWB 115 fmj.
 
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WeeWilly said:
9BPLE is actually slightly lower in power factor than current Federal HST +P loadings, so from a wear and tear standpoint you are not going to be subjecting your gun to any more than current modern +P loadings.

The 9BPLE round has a good record on the street with LE agencies around the country. On the other hand, there are more modern loads that may be better from a terminal ballistics standpoint.

I think I would stock up on the best priced major manufacturers FMJ of 124gr or greater for practice and go to Bone Frog Gun Club and buy as much Federal HST in 124gr or 147gr your budget allows and use that as my carry ammo. Another good SD load are Gold Dots, BFGC carries that as well.

SGAmmo online is also a good place for volume priced ammo.

Congrats on your upcoming graduation. A physical therapist gave me back my full range of motion of my shoulder after a rotator cuff tear last winter. Noble profession.

Good luck.
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Once again, I got beat to the answer by WeeWillie. BFGC is the cheapest, fastest I’ve found. Any decent 115 or 124 gr is fine for the range and I also highly recommend Federal HST and Speer Gold Dots for your new G 19. Congratulations on selecting a handgun that won’t break the bank and...won’t break. They are fantastic pistols.


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Welcome. I have always used and had very good results with Remington UMC 115 grain ammo for the range. I have never had any problems with it and it is readily available at usually a good price. I normally buy the 250 round bricks locally.

For range use I have always been very happy with Speer Gold Dots 124 grain hollow points for carry purposes. I purchase my HP ammo from here: www.sgammo.com

I have always used standard pressure ammo. There is alot of quality ammo available to you and generally it comes down to personal preference.
 
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You will run out of money for ammo before you will harm your Glock with that ammo. In the last couple of years there have been some great deals on that ammo. It has a very good track record at being a good defense load. I find it to be a very comfortable load to shoot for extended range sessions. I use it in a Glock, Shield, CZ 75 and a HiPower, they all eat it no problems.
 
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Congratulations on an excellent choice for your first handgun. And welcome to Glock Talk.

This is your first handgun but, you don't say if you have previously had the opportunity to shoot a handgun much. If you haven't much experience with a handgun let me suggest that you stick with standard pressure range ammo for the time being.

There is an old expression directed at young men who liked to soup up their VW beetles and later Honda Civics. It says "If the object is to go fast then you should have started with something else". To me, the standard pressure 9mm range ammo and self defense loads are what I want to shoot. If I wanted to jack up the speed and pressure I would have stayed with my Glock 32 and the .357 Sig round.

But that's just me. Others on here could likely give you better advice on +P loads.

Shooting a handgun is kind of difficult at first so you should be concentrating on learning basics of grip, trigger control, etc. Much information available on the internet and YouTube for beginning handgunners. If you are already experienced with shooting then carry on with what you think is best.

As far as the PPU brand is concerned, earlier this year I shot up a thousand rounds of PPU standard pressure 115 grain 9s. I found it to shoot decently but, it also threw a lot of gray flakes all over my hands and arms. I took the flakes to be unburned powder. After each shoot with that brand the guns were also full of those same gray flakes. Got a little annoying and I will not buy PPU again.

For mail order ammunition, SGAmmo is your friend. It's a family owned and run business and I've done the majority of my ammunition buying from them once I found them. Ammunition for your G19 is called 9mm Luger on that site.

Congratulations also on your upcoming graduation. I'm sure it's an exciting time in you life as it was in my own. Good luck with your future and with the job market.
 
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I researched 9mm ammo until I was about to vomit and settled on Federal HST 124 grain +P and the BPLE in +P+. I was zeroed in on SGammo as recommended here. Sam and his family are great people.

Anyway, I’ve come to understand that the BPLE in +P+ has a poor expansion record. It’s used by LE agencies all over and has a claimed good stopping record, but in the ballistics tests I’ve seen it just doesn’t expand, especially after passing through clothing. The consensus seems to be that the hollow point cavity is just too shallow and narrow. Makes sense to me.

Went with the 124 grain HST +P. Liking it since then. Recently I’ve been shooting some 115 grain Speer GD and the original Golden Saber, I think it’s 124 grain. They don’t seem to be as accurate as the HST, but I’m sure it’s me.

Congrats on the achievement and good look. You’ll get good advice from some good patriots.
 
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For someone with their first gun, +P+ seems like a great way to develop a flinch.

Get some Winchester White Box or Federal range ammo, and work on your fundamentals (grip,sight picture, trigger pull, accuracy and range safety).

Then you can try +P+ if you still think there is a need.
 
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spKelpDiver said:
Hi everyone. I am new to these forums and this is my first post. Thank you for taking the time to read it. I am a new owner of a glock 19.
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My first handgun.

I bought it as a graduation gift to myself, a bit prematurely because I don't graduate physical therapy school until May. However, I just finished all of my coursework and I wanted to beat the new California ammo laws that are going into effect in 2018, which are going to drive up the cost of ammunition. I would like to use online ordering to stock up while I can.

I am attempting to consolidate my ammo purchase in the most practical way. A friend recommend 9 PPU as good quality range ammo ($10/50rounds). I was just about to order a bunch of it but than I read that 9 PPU has "pressure levels higher than SAMMI Spec" essentially making it a +P round. My question is, for ~5 dollars more per box of 50 rounds I could order 9BPLE as range ammo. I like the idea of stocking up on the 9BPLE because it can also serve as a decent defensive round. My main defensive round will likely be the 147 HST, based on price and the ballistic tests/reviews I have read.

I am aware that 9BPLE is +P+ and the implications (wear and tear) of regularly shooting this stuff, but from all that I have read the pressures of 9BPLE equivalent (or less than?) a +P round. So essentially, if I am choosing between two +P rounds, the 9BPLE can serve as range ammo and a defensive round.

Anybody have any insight? I have read quite a few threads where advice is given not to shoot +p+ in high quantities, then somebody comes back and claims that their glock 19s eat it up with no issue. Anecdotes, I am aware.

Thank you in advance.
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You can feed a Glock almost anything with no worries but look at like this when you go to dinner you want good food to eat...... get my drift
 
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If you just want to go out plinking around and save some money, look in to Dick Sporting goods. They have CCI Blazer 300 for 75 bucks. My son and I have fired off over 1,000 rounds in my G19 gen 3, G43 and his G19 Gen 4 with no problems at all. I believe they have Remington, 79 bucks for 300 rounds. Just food for thought.
 
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You have a glock! That thing will shoot stone and never fail. I have a 19 gen 3 and buy the Winchester 115 when on sale at Dick's. When the gun show is in town I buy rounds of professional reload. Never had an issue. For actual defense you may want something better, HP, etc but for range, just enjoy, don't overthink.
 
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