That would be an opinion, not an actual fact.

 

Correct, just like the Dallas Cowboys are America's Team.

 

If you look back, these contract runs come and go and cycles. I remember when the smith and Wesson 4000 series was the gun for law-enforcement. Then came Beretta with the military contract. Then came Glock with the law enforcement business. Now it is Sig Sauer’s turn.

 

I don't mind companies taking turns, but they've got to earn it.

 

I'm very disappointed that we didn't get strippers with our department glocks. That would make the shifts more pleasant

I would be too, guess you missed the golden Smyrna days. From the book Glock The Rise of the American gun, 2012.

“Glock’s training sessions in Smyrna, capped off with Thursday evening bacchanals at the Gold Club, had become legendary among police departments shooting instructors”. Bills for those outings ranged as high as $10,000 a night; quality champagne and Atlanta’s best lap dances did not come cheap.“

 

I'll have to take your word on those. I do recall the Gen 4 RSA issue in the beginning. I'll look into the others. I follow the old Ronald Reagan trust but verify approach.

I remember we had an issue with glock 22s having the rear frame rails shearing off. They had to replace the frames on those guns.

 

Glocks are perfect, that never happened

 

As far as the the Army marksmanship unit experts stated that this is an insignificant problem that can be mitigated with training and experience with the weapon, they were obviously trying to minimize the embarrassment of the pistol the army adopted before completing the required testing.

That is a subjective unsubstantiated conclusion, without any merit. A SME would never jump into a corner like that, what are your qualifications to override the marksmanship unit of the Army? Ignorance begets confidence, and that is the corner you placed yourself in.

Despite tons of efforts to show that Glocks had plenty of issues through the years, that ammo can cause trouble with a perfectly good but not yet calibrated firearm, you are so upset that Austrian perfection has not won against an American company that you will ignore facts, precedents, sleazy marketing tactics, anything to cry over the wunderbar Austrian design from the 80’s.

Today I was talking to a friend, former officer in the Australian Army, and they are also adopting the 320 platform. Surely another twisted test, corrupted Army, the works… or maybe just maybe a modern truly modular platform wins against a 40 years old non modular pistol?

Maybe a company that can provide different frames, optics, suppressors wins against one that does one thing and one thing only and despite having had tons of issues during the years calls it Perfection?

 

I was one of the revolver holdouts for personal use when the newfangled Glock pistols were being debugged. In those days we were guaranteed the mantra from Smyrna when Glock Perfection failed was an automatic "Operator Error." By waiting until after all issues were finally corrected my current Glocks are simple, trustworthy tools, like my heftier Ruger revolvers.

 

Wait, I'm really confused... Do we agree that Hookers and Blow helped earn contracts or that Hookers and Blow are the primary factor in earning contracts?

The more things change the more they stay the same. Let's prioritize and stay focused on what really matters.

 

Thanks for that clever insight

 

Can I ask a simple question. Do you think that all of the different police departments and militaries that chose the P320 are just stupid. Even after all of the stories departments are still choosing the P320. Why? I compete in 11-15 IDPA matches a year. I know it’s not life and death and totally different. The number or P320’s being used now far exceed the number of Glocks. That would not be the case if they were not reliable. These P320’s are bought by people like you and me with “their” hard earned money.

 

I don't know. Ask the police departments that gave the P320 up after adopting it.

 

I love how the SIG guys defend the P320 with little or no objectivity just because they love theirs. I'm a SIG guy. I carry a P229 chambered in .357 SIG. I just don't ignore facts.