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Your shotgun: pros and cons

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by jundeleon, Jul 19, 2004.

  1. jundeleon

    jundeleon

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    What kind of shotgun do BOGs use for security and target? Pros and cons of your choice scattergun?
     
  2. ogiebb

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    remington comp master 12 ga..but sometimes i wish i had a benelli or win sx2 eh love your own i guess..but for home i have a very reliable but cheap hawk industries pump 12ga. ..any 12 ga chamb for 3 , 2.3/4 will do good... have fun...:)
     

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    Remington 870 Police Magnum
    Entry Gun with 14in barrel:)

    "the 1911 of Shotguns"
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  4. glockfan33

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    Nothing like my Benelli M1014 Limited Edition w/ Eotech Holosights. She ain't a safe queen either!!!:)
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  5. rhino465

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    Remington 1100 ... the only cons are that it's heavy and like all shotguns, capacity is limited and relaoding is painfully slow (when I do it). Pros are it's reliable, recoil is manageable, it's reliable, it shoots well, it's reliable, and it's reliable.

    ;f
     
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    I'm highly considering the Benelli M1 na nakita ko sa Hahn, PhP73,000 ang list price (negotiable daw); 12ga. then 7+2 rounds... pero bakit ang Benelli M4 and 1014 ay 4+1 lang?

    My other options are the Mossberg 590AD and the Winchester 1300 Defender; but I haven't found any sellers yet.
     
  7. cebuboy

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    hi pirate; you cant go wrong with the m1:) unless you have the spare cash for the m4:) my only problem with my m1 is that it consumes a lot of shells, hehe shooting is very addicting:D btw you can always get the mag tube extension for the m4 if you want more capacity.
     
  8. jundeleon

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    Isnt the Benelli M3 series better than the M1? The M3, I think, can be converted from semi-auto to pump action instantly, which may be advantageous during misfires or duds. The Benelli M1 and M3 are priced almost the same at Twin Pines.
     
  9. FAlvar

    FAlvar I love Iya

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    I have a 20 ga Win M1300. Pro for 20ga: Faster f/up shots because of lower recoil impulse (for me). Con: Gotta be careful not to double feed when working the action fast. Ties up the gun pretty good = Baaaad.

    I also have a 12 ga SxS Coach. Pro: The availability of the fastest follow up shot possible out of a shotgun. Con: Only holds 2 rounds. But hey, I just won't miss!;)

    For me the ideal combat shotgun would be a modern version of the old Model 12 or Model 97 Winchester pumps. These guns did not have disconnectors. If you hold the trigger back after your first shot and keep on cycling the slide, the gun will fire again and again with each stroke until the tube is empty. Con: You better not be holding the trigger back when you first rack the slide to load or BOOOOM!
     
  10. antediluvianist

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    Has anybody tried the local Armscor shotguns? If so, what's your feedback?

    Can you recommend which model would be the "best" for home defense (as a first/"good enough" shotgun for a non-shotgun person interested mainly in home defense.)

    Or you don't recommend them at all?
     
  11. cebuboy

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    yup it is supposed to be better; but in my experience with my friends m3 it does not cycle very well with weak loads and i dont like the feel of the pump. for an all around shotgun the m4 would be nice, but due to the high price(108k) i settled for the m1 and a nova. it nice have a semi-auto and a pump:)
     
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    For the owner who buys a gun, shoots a few rounds and then keep it, the Armscor will do. The price is irresistible.

    As for my preference, I like the Benelli and Fabarm. Very good performance and handling.
     
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    I don't think there is much advantage to the M3 over the M1 (Benelli) unless you plan to purposely shoot loads that you know won't cycle the action (like a breeching load or blank or less lethal loads).

    If you're using it as a weapon with real loads, the pump stuff on the M3 just makes it weigh more. If the gun fails to cycle, you can work the bolt with your hand as quickly as you could work the pump, assuming you were not expecting it to happen.
     
  14. mikey177

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    Hi ante. I have and use the Armscor Model 30 SAS.

    [​IMG]

    I broke something after about a hundred rounds, which caused the shotgun to lock up, but a quick trip to the Armscor factory fixed the problem. There's an old thread about it here somewhere.

    Best shotgun for home defense? That would depend on your doctrine for home defense. Would you use it while you're barricaded behind hard cover in your bedroom, or would you (gasp) go house clearing with it? I personally prefer the model with the full stock since it helps soak up the recoil and aids in good shot placement. YMMV.
     
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    I have a Rem 870P with 14 in. bbl w/c i bought 2 yrs ago at PBD during the gunshow. IIRC, it came out 23,800. The 26in bbl is currently available at PBD for about 11k. during the last gunshow, the turkish made pumps and semi-autos distributed by PBD were sold out. the Hatsan Escort pump was selling for 10,600 and the semi-auto for 13,600.
     
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    How about the Mossberg 590? How come only a few have mentioned this? Isnt this the standard issue of us armed forces?
     
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    It's one of the guns they issue, but there is also a fancy new Benelli that I think is in the system. Probably plenty of other pump guns left over from years past too.

    The Mossberg 590 is an excellent value and very rugged.
     
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    Benelli's are great shotguns and the appreciation in price is also great. In 1998, I think they go for P50T. Currently, they are P75T and up.

    Remington 870's are very classy and supported by many aftermarket parts.

    Mossbergs keeps on going.

    Armscors are good for the price. Aftermarket service won't be a problem.

    Hatsans are cheap making them a good buy.

    Hay. the choices are endless. let me bet on the lotto tomorrow:)