The request for 9mm was so good I thought it would be good to hear what you had to say about 40ca. I have a Glock 27 and 23 and so far we just target shoot. Again, I have clays for now and see that it is not the favorite so I will be at the gun show this weekend and can get another powder. Melissa wants something with a little less kick. I loaded some 3.2gr clays under a 180gr frontier bullet and from the 23, she shot better than she ever has. I have some 165gr frontier bullets and thought I would start with the min. 3.5gr clays and see how she likes that. Locally, we have very little to choose from so if you can share your source, that would be good too. Thanks in advance.