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You answer the door with a gun... it's the cops

Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by UneasyRider, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. UneasyRider

    UneasyRider C.D.B.

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    Tonights news had a story of a young man who answered his door at night, somebody was pounding on it, he had a gun and brought it with him to open the door. The 2 guys pounding on door don't say anything. True story.

    The man opens his door and it's 2 cops who are looking for a murder suspect... they have the wrong unit number... the cops immediately shoot and kill the guy who opened the door.

    What would you do if you were the cops?

    What would you do if you were the man in the apartment?
     
  2. 20South

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    If I were the man with the gun and I asked who was there, I wouldnt have answered the door and I likely would have called the police.
     

  3. arclight610

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    Usually when I answer the door with a gun, I have it behind my back.
     
  5. Cali-Glock

    Cali-Glock Mountain Man

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    I live in the middle of nowhere - anyone pounding on my door after I have gone to sleep will be greeted with the business end of a gun. At least cops in rural areas expect this.
     
  6. AK_Stick

    AK_Stick AAAMAD

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    I don't know about that.


    While common to have a gun, its decidedly uncommon around these rural parts, to open the door covering someone with a weapon. And doing so, would likely end quite like this event did.



    Personally, I have both a peep hole, a glass section above the door, and a window through which I can see the door, without being seen. I always check before I answer. I also have a light above the door, and motion lights that activate prior to you getting 1/2 way down my drive, and illuminate my whole front yard as well.

    While I will generally answer the door with a weapon, pointing it at someone and then opening the door, just seems to be asking for issues.
     
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  7. G22Dude

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    I'm not obligated to open my door just because you knock on it. My wife and I have on many an occassion listen to someone or another pound away at our door while we sit there watching TV. As long as you don't bust the door in then you're ok. People sometimes forget that nobody can force you to answer the door
     
  8. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    This... or I have it in my left hand, which I can shoot just as well with.
     
  9. BlackPaladin

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    No, cops don't and if you pull a stunt like that, plan on things not working for you in the long term.
     
  10. smokeross

    smokeross GTDS Member #49

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    If you beat on my door, day or night, I will have you covered. I may not open it though, but you will be covered.
     
  11. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    I don't think it will take too long for it to turn ugly... more like very short term, almost immediate term, at that.:whistling:
     
  12. BlackPaladin

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    For clarification, I am referring to answering a door with an aimed weapon. I really think it is probably tough guy talk and most people would have better sense. FYI, I am not at all against having a firearm while answering the door. I can't imagine the stupidity who would not check to see who might be at the door before opening it though. Further stupidity would be opening a door to an unchecked person with an aimed weapon. There are a who lot of ways to avoid problems like that, see AKs post above.
     
  13. FireForged

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    If a situation at your front door is so suspect that a person feels the need to have a gun in their hand.. WHY in the heck would they open it?
     
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    I usually do if i dont know them.
     
  15. awoodpd13

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    This!!! If you look out, and it's a uniformed Police Officer, secure your firearm, THEN open the door!:wow::wow::wow:
     
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    Many doors do not have peepholes. Perhaps a question for coptalk, but from my limited CJ courses years ago, the law clearly states you must identify yourself as a LEO when knocking on the door. Heck this is procedure even for a raid. I have a feeling these cops will having some in depth discussions with IA and the DA's office.
     
  17. UneasyRider

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    I have more information having seen the video of the front of the apartment house. The resident could not see out enough to tell who was pounding on his door. Why did he open it?

    The police have the door opened looking for a killer at this address and are met by a man with a gun? Around here your dead, we have lost too many cops.

    Wrong address happens. Don't open the door. Get a warrant or some back up. No winners here.
     
  18. eracer

    eracer Where's my EBT?

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    I would never open the door unless I first looked at the people standing outside it.

    Hearing someone say, "Police, open up!" is not enough.
     
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  19. pugman

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    This very thing happened to me back in 1992.

    My now wife and I had our first apartment in a not so great area of town. It wasn't the hood, but 1) I wouldn't live there today 2) it didn't pass the car test. We had a 1st floor apartment.

    About 3:30 am on a Sunday morning we get a pounding on the door. I had just gotten back from my bartending gig so I was up. My wife had been sleeping. Those doors did have peep holes but they were cheap, dirty (which is my fault) and gave you a viewing like a coke bottle.

    I got the "its the police, please open up" line. However, at the time I had a bat and no gun.

    Told him I HAD a gun and was calling 911 - he then informed me they were looking for an armed robbery suspect and noticed I was on the road and just came home.

    The bar I worked at used armed security who escorted us out at night. I asked the cop if he knew Jim (the owner of JBM) he said yes; asked him to describe him and he did to a tee "6'4, blonde and dumb."

    Little did I know a third officer was covering me from my ground floor glass patio door.

    Today in my house...I'm simply not opening the door. They want to break it down having the wrong address...this is why I have an attorney and they have insurance. My wife has been asking us to change out our front door for months.
     
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  20. DustyJacket

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    If I am answering my door at night, any gun I carry would be in my hand, in bathrobe pocket.

    I would turn on the porch light, and look at the person and ask what they wanted, BEFORE, opening the door.

    I would not be pointing a visible gun at the person.
    If I felt that bad about the situation, I would not open the door. I would tell the person that I am calling the police.