I have a G17 with the RTF frame with 2 17 rnd mags, box, etc... I traded for this recently. The guy claims he bought this new and never fired it. I spoke with the dealer who sold this to him and stated that this was fairly common for him for some reason. He did however, put a ghost ring rear sight on this gun. It looks like he may very well have not fired this, but i would not say for sure. I would like to trade this for a full size 1911. Preferably a Springer. Not really interested in RIA's or other cast framed 1911's. Local trades only, at this time. Thanks!