I bought these gloves thinking I'd be able to ski with them. Well, the are too bulky to get a good grip on my ski poles. These are intended for snowboarders but would work great for someone who doesn't ski with poles. The gloves have "armor" on the back of the hand, thumb, and palm. CF Force 10, men's size medium, Thinsulate LiteLoft $40 shipped USPS Priority Mail. PM me for fastest response, I don't check email very often.