WSF and 45 ACP seems too hot

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  1. G36_Me

    G36_Me

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    Any of you out there use WSF to reload? I bought some to try cause of a powder shortage around here. I couldn't find any 231 or Bullseye, which I normally use.

    The Hodgdon site gave a range of 5.8 to 6.3 for 230 gr. LRN.

    I loaded up 5.9 grains and took it to the range.

    Results: I thought it was way too hot. Is that just the way WSF shoots? I was thinking I should go down maybe a whole 1.0 grain to 5.0, but that is way below the 5.8 listed as starting. By the way, the load at 5.9 was accurate and hit on the target were I expected. Wish I had a chronograph. I've been lookin but have not taken the plunge. I always load on the low end, never the high. Just shooting for fun.
     
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    WSF loads pretty close to Unique. At 6.3gr w/ a 230grLRN @ 1.235" OAL, you are running about 855fps in a 5" gun. Your load is probably running close to 820fps, hot, not really, about like factory ball ammo but certainly more than a target load. If you are looking for soft shooting target loads, WSF or other med burners are not what you want. Dropping below 5.8gr is going to leave some unburnt powder. At 5.8gr, I would think you will be just under 800fps, pretty mild for 230gr loads. Give WST a try. Very soft shooting, accurate powder.
     

  3. G36_Me

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    Thanks for the response. I will give it another chance and report back. I'd like to see if my feeling are replicated.
     
  4. D. Manley

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    The "hot" feel you experienced is nothing more than the effects of using a slower burning powder. The Bullseye and W231 that you're accustomed to are faster burning and give a softer recoil impulse at approximately the same power factor of the load. As Fred said, you are probably running somewhat below factory load levels and should be just fine provided, you like the load. If not, go back to a faster powder.
     
  5. Zombie Steve

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    I use WSF quite a bit in .45acp, and yes, you'll get some good velocity from it.
     
  6. G36_Me

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    given that feel; is the Bullseye and W231 "easier" on the gun than the WSF?
     
  7. fredj338

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    Pressures & slide vel are what is hard on a gun. You may be actually running at higher pressure w/ BE than WSF, depends on the load.
     
  8. Beware Owner

    Beware Owner NOT a victim.

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    I'd think that for WSF, 7.0gr and a magnum primer are somewhat hot under a 230gr fmj.
     
  9. TonyT

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    I use WSF exclusively in all my 9mm loads but prefer faster powders such as WST, American Select, Clays or VV N-310 in the 45 ACP. The faster powders burn cleaner at the lower pressures of the 45 ACP cartridge.
     
  10. G36_Me

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    caution: not responsible for my typos if there are any:

    Agree with you, the Hodgdon site says

    230 gr HDY FMJ FP using WSF has 5.7 to 6.4 and Federal 150 primers; so, 7.0gr would be hot.
     
  11. owtlaw

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    a good indictor of how hot your loads are is how far your gun throws the brass.
     
  12. fredj338

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    WHile not a "good" gauge, it does tell you that pressures are up if compared to say factory loads.
     
  13. Palouse

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    Unless, of course, it's a Mini-14, which spits brass 100 yards regardless of how hot the loads are.