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Would you recommend a Striker Fired pistol to a novice shooter?

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by Lunch Meat, Jan 12, 2018.

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  1. Lunch Meat

    Lunch Meat

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    The title is pretty self-explanatory. Novice shooter with a concealed handgun permit but little other training.

    Do you think it would be safe for that person to carry a striker-fired pistol?
     
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    I do not, but it could be done. I'm not sure that a novice shooter with no training should be carrying anything. But I guess it depends on the person. Were a novice shooter to carry, I would recommend something like a S&W 442, or anything with a heavy trigger. The brain has to be trained not to touch the trigger until its bang time.
     
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  3. Lunch Meat

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    I didn't say "NO training" I said "LITTLE training"

    The first handgun I ever owned was a Smith & Wesson model 915. I bought it the day I got out of the Army (1995) and I was pretty much a TDA guy until I bought my first M&P in 2013.

    So I had almost 20 years getting in the habit of keeping my finger off the trigger but still that long heavy double action first trigger pull as a safety measure before I switched to a Striker Fired handgun.
     
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    Yes, I would and I have.

    For decades I owned, but rarely shot, pistols. Most of my time was spent with long guns. Once I decided to obtain my CCL, I gave very careful thought as to what I wanted as my carry platform. That decision brought me to the wide, wide world of Glock.

    Admittedly, it took about a week before my emotions (OH MY HOLY GOD! THERE'S NO EXTERNAL SAFETY ON THIS THING!!!), to catch up with my intellectual understanding of the weapon (If I keep my finger off the bangy thing I can use this to pound a 16 penny nail into a 2x4).

    A quality holster that fully covers the trigger. No re-holstering without looking when wearing clothes with stringy things. No in-pocket re-holstering. These three musts plus the four rules of gun safety and one is good to go.

    Now, that said . . .

    . . . there's no such thing as too much training (i.e., classroom instruction, range instruction, personal reading), for anyone who decides to CC, regardless their choice of carry weapon.

    Toward that end, especially for understanding the complex legalities of CC, I strongly encourage all my friends new to CC to start with Ayoob's book: https://www.amazon.com/Deadly-Force-Understanding-Right-Defense/dp/1440240612.

    Welcome to CC, to striker-fired weapons, and to Glock.

    Stay safe all.
     
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  5. Lunch Meat

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    Well the Polymer probably wouldn't stand up to it
     
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    DWARREN123 Grumpy Old Guy

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    I would not suggest any firearm without safety and use training.
    The striker fired pistol is no more unsafe than a hammer fired pistol in the hands of someone who knows and uses the safety rules.
     
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    Would and have numerous times.
     
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    If it's a concern, there are striker fired pistols that offer manual safetys.
     
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    How little is 'little training'? 'Permit' doesn't necessarily mean 'carry now'. Striker pistol, not unlike any other firearm, will be just fine after proper and ample training. Not rocket science.
     
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    SWFlGuy Lifetime NRA member

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    My first pistol was a G17 and I carried it asap.
    Im still ok.
     
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    A Kahr CW9 or CM9 is a striker fired pistol with a long 7~lb DA trigger. A tad more forgiving for folks who still like to fondle the trigger.
     
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  14. Lunch Meat

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    How ample is "ample training"?
     
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    If youre smart enough to point it away from you and keep your finger off the trigger, well you got most of it right there.
    If you dont have the ability to do those things no pistol in the world is going to help you with that.
     
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    rock_castle Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness

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    Certainly, and I’m opposed to a manual safety on a carry gun.
     
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    This has happened to me twice.

    I showed a neighbor with pretty close to zero experience a gun once. Of course I showed clear before I handed it to him but as soon as he got it in his hands he pulled the trigger multiple times. I never let him near any of my guns again.

    The second time was a young lady my wife and I knew who claimed quite a bit of hunting experience (So at least hunter's safety which would be enough to get a CHP in Colorado).

    Same thing, I ensured the weapon was clear and handed it to her. She immediately put her hand over the muzzle and pulled the trigger. (Remember, hunter's safety). I knew this woman enough to politely correct her behavior but I don't know if it "took".

    I don't think I'd have a problem recommending a SFA pistol as a first gun but I would beat keep your damn finger off the trigger into their head
     
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    And that doesnt have anything to do with the gun style, thats common sense imo. Some people just dont have it.
     
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    True. Both guns were third generation S&Ws
     
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    I assume you're a big boy or girl and can figure that out. If not, don't carry.
     
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