Would this Be a Justified Situation Or Not?

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  1. Nalapombu

    Nalapombu Millennium Member

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    I'd like to know what you all think of this situation. If you were in line here with your wife or girl, or your husband and this unfolded right in front of you.....or you were the guy he was pointing at......

    Would you think you'd be justified in using deadly force or not?

    Thanks
    Larry
     
  2. peng

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    No. No physical contact, no imminent danger, just an idiot barking dog.

    A good example of a situation you should diffuse by leaving and calling 911.

    A citizen with a CCW is not a LEO, and has very different rules and responsibilities.
     

  3. checkyoursix

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    Absolutely not, unless you are seeking notoriety and financial ruin following a costly trial, not to mention the potential outcome of said trial.
     
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  4. HalcyonDays

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    Easy. Leave, and then call the police. OP, not jumping on you, but how do you think you could justify using deadly force?
     
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  5. Bruce M

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    Not a deadly force situation but there certainly was several wheelbarrows full of stupid there.
     
  6. Gun Shark

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    I'd call 911. Advise of the situation and specifically mention the guy is threatening to kill people, as well as calling someone to come and "bring everything".
     
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  7. MSP Sarge

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    Be a good witness. Call 911 and get outside.
     
  8. Lowcountry_Glocker

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    nope. old boy seems stupid for coming back inside then fighting the dude. that is a tuck in the back of the store, call 911, relay good info to dispatch, swiftly exit store and MAYBE, very, very non nonchalantly, follow his general direction post-leaving so as to aid LE in apprehension, then provide testimony to officers on scene.

    I can list at least 4 charges he could be hooked on here for that idiocy, also curious as to the cause of his little mental breakdown
     
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  9. gadgetnut259

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    Are you seriously asking that question? Why in the world would the use of deadly force possibly be justified (or even needed) here? Just because someone is throwing a temperature tantrum and acting like an @ss is no reason to freaking shoot them.
     
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  10. willieH

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    The store management should have taken charge and removed customers from the store, especially after the death threats.

    Each adult in the store should have exercised a level of personal responsibility and removed themselves and children from a volatile situation, especially after the death threats and overhearing his call to "bring everything."

    Some bystander's comments seemed to have supported the man being mistreated when he was taken down and held for the police.

    What was most alarming was the complete change in attitude and complete shifting of blame when the police arrive and begin talking to the angry man. We don't see what initially set-off the angry tirade, but clearly the video shows the escalation. Without the video I would speculate some witnesses would give a very different account of events particularly of the citizen intervention.

    A firearm in this situation is not needed and would have thrown gas on a flame.
     
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    Nope, the guy was obviously cracked out of his mind. I would've gotten between him and the people he was threatening (if I were armed) and just let him rant until the cops got there.
     
  12. The Habit

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    The socks with flip flops thing is pretty great.
     
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    Even more so combined with the bush hat. Notice that when he got into that sorry excuse of a brawl he went tactical and lost the flip flops, thus showing that training in the end does pay off. So much fail.
     
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    Smartest person was the one who started recording, excellent witness.

    Cops always arrest the one who is not wearing a shirt.
     
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    Would you think you'd be justified in using deadly force or not?

    Thanks
    Larry[/QUOTE]

    That guy was a nuisance and an insult to humanity, not a physical threat.

    After 40 years between the ropes I can only laugh at how this was handled.
     
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    His attitude and voice sure changed when the cops got there.

    Really weird that the guy threatens to kill everyone and the moment he gets taken to the ground, all I hear is "that's not right, that's not right".

    What's wrong with people?
     
  17. Gun Shark

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    Definitely had me saying "what?" out loud.
     
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    My son worked in psychiatry during rotation in med school and he has shared many of his experiences with me. You will not believe how many people appear normal during a brief encounter but are gaga, especially when off their medications.
     
  19. J.R. Bob Dobbs

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    License to carry is not a license to kill. You'll go to jail, deservedly so.
     
  20. Z71bill

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    What was the shirtless guy holding during the fight?

    How about a shot of pepper spray?
     
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