With all the TSA threads . . .

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Morris, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. Morris

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    I have to ask, what has been the working relationships between Airport Police agencies and the TSA? Over the years of flying and talking with various cops at airports, the general consensus has been that there are strained relations with the TSA officers and airport cops.

    Are you seeing that in your jurisdictions?

    On a completely side note, I'm flying to Orlando in January. I'm opting out of the scanner just to see how the pat down goes, should I be selected.

    Speaking of which, I wonder if one of our former officers is still working for the TSA. He left us on a medical retirement several years ago. It was identified that he left due to "early onset Alzheimers" or something like that. Imagine my surprise six months later seeing him on the front page of the paper wanding down a Santa at Christmas . . . :)
     
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    Oh yeah, forgot, popping some corn right now . . .
     

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    TSA is an abomination. An octopus that if not stopped will worm its way into every aspect of life. Airports now, then sea ports, then train stations and bus stations. The TSA is security theater that exists to placate the clueless and employ the unemployable.





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    The nearest international airport to me has a deal where they contract out the security. TSA isn't involved at all. Pretty much clueless. Imagine $8 an hour guards at the mall running security for the airport.
     
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    We hire some real geniuses to do airport security as well.

    I was flying out of town on a course and packed a sandwich and some snack in my back back (carry on). After my bag gets scanned it gets put through the scanner two more times and I get taken aside. The security guard pulls out a wand, attaches a piece of cloth to the end and starts swiping various surfaces. "Oh ****," I'm thinking, "My backback doubles as a range bag and also came with me on two post blast investigators courses. If that wand is what I think it is I'm in a little bit of trouble."

    At this point I identify myself and explain what she will find on the backpack. She looks at me with a blank look, and tells me the wand is not for detecting substances on bags. She then opens up my bag and says, "So that's what we saw on the x-ray... Pringles."

    "I also have some wasabi covered peas if you want to check the rest of my snacks."
     
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  7. MarcDW

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    5 Years ago I was flying out of Manchester NH.
    I had in my suitcase a scope, forearm, a bolt, two magazines and a trigger group, all for a HK 91.
    However no frame or ammo.
    TSA manager fined me $500 "for bringing a weapon into security area" because I did not declare these parts.
    The TSA attorney (talked over the phone) dismissed it within 30 seconds!
    Since then they changed this. Now you have to declare any weapons part in your lodge.
    Funny part was, that the SO told the manager that this was legal and he actually let me fly off with everything.

    The TSA jurisdiction is however not only airports and train stations, it's anything involving transportation!
     
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  9. steveksux

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    I don't know about you guys, but I haven't felt safe in malls ever since 9/11.

    Not so much from a terrorist threat, moreso because the TSA drained the talent pool for mall security in general.

    Randy
     
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    I have worked with Phoenix PD's airport division at Sky Harbor a couple of times while picking up inmate transfers off flights, or sending them out. We were loaded to the gills with duty belts, radios, etc.

    We USED to get a PPD escort and bypass the security screening all together......until one day. TSA decided we (the transport officers) would have to strip all our gear and go through screening just like every other passenger. In the meantime, they wanted the prisoner unshackled and uncuffed for screening. Um.....this was even after being shown a court order AND A PHONE CALL FROM THE ISSUING JUDGE!! prohibiting it.

    Long story short, we won and my old agency and the PPD hate the TSA with a passion.
     
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    I knew a guy in high school, friendly as can be, but but God bless him he was slow as could be too. (9th grade I recall him getting screamed at for chewing on the shop teachers wood). Would come to school dressed as train engineer, forest ranger...etc etc all the things he really wanted to be. Fast forward a few years, I hate flying with a passion, I'm about to board the plane...guess who walks by with a TSA shirt on...
     
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    If you touch my junk I'll have you arrested.

    Just saw this tale of a traveler fed up with the security theater. Apparently this has gone viral. Opted out of the new full body scanner for a wanding and pat down, then balked at the more intrusive pat downs they're going for now.

    Randy
     
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    Saw the video yesterday as well. I have a hunch that poor San Diego Harbor Police brother was like, "WTF is the tards at TSA dragging me into now?!" I felt for the officer.

    By the way, I'm guessing the plainclothes at the end was a Manager.

    But I am curious about the working relationship (or not). I recall that about six years ago, when I flew into John Wayne in Orange County, the deputies there made it clear they were not impressed with the TSA. Flew back a few years ago and the sheriff's post magically disappeared . . .
     
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    both TSA & Airport PD, regardless of how they feel about each other, are the same: They're both sanitation workers. The difference is that TSA looks for the trash, & if/when they find some, the Airport PD carries it away.
     
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    Two things worst than a tsa guard, meter maids and lawyers. We had a guy in my agency who was "asked to resign" after getting caught shoplifting at a military PX on video. A couple of years later he is working a X-ray machine at JFK airport in NYC. He was so embarrassed that when he saw me he didn't even look up at me.

    I haven't flown since they put the full body scanners in place. But given the choice I would choose the scanner over the manual pat-down. NO sh-tbag $8.00 an hour tsa guard is going to put their hands on me w/o losing a his arm.

    I have zero respect for these guys. My buddy is a CBP officer at JFK airport and his brother is Port Authority Police Officer. They routinely arrest TSA guards for stealing from luggage, internal conspiracies involving use of their security access pass to smuggle dope out of the airport.
     
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