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Winchester Ranger-T 127gr +p+ 9MM, thoughts?

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by granitemonkey, Jul 27, 2010.

  1. granitemonkey

    granitemonkey

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    I personally love this load, I think its one of the most kick-*** loads in 9MM that can be found next to the Speer Gold Dot 124+p and Federal HST 147gr. In my humble opinion, this particular load is how the 9MM should be loaded. Who agrees?
     
  2. DLL9mm

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    It is a great round. So are the other 2 you mentioned. I am currently carrying 147gr. HST, But when that is gone I will be stocking up on the Ranger +p+.
     

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    I think its a good round but all bullets are lethel some just more lethel than others.

    You must be able to hit what you are shooting at number one priority when you can do that the bullet does not matter.
     
  4. JBP55

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    My 3 favorite 9mm brands are HST, Gold Dot, Ranger T.
     
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    I've always felt it was a decent load for the caliber. I've carried it since it was the RA9SXTP. It's higher recoil can create more wear & tear on guns, though.

    I expect to end up carrying some of the 124gr +P RA9124TP at some point next year, since it's currently the 9mm load on the state contract and will probably be in inventory at some point.

    I've also appreciated being able to use the Golden Sabre & Gold Dot loads, too.

    I think I even have a few hundred Fed Hydra-Shok 147gr loads left over from when we used to carry them once upon a time.
     
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    There is very little difference in performance between the newer 124 and the 127.
     
  7. DRT

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    If I owned a 9mm, the only loads that I'd consider carrying are:

    1) 127 +P+ Ranger Tseries (maybe the 124gr +P version too)
    2) 147 HST (preferably +P version but not necessary)
    3) 147 Ranger Tseries

    I'd prefer #1 or #2.
     
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    That's good to know, but not surprising. ;)
     
  9. Glock19Fan

    Glock19Fan Cool Guy

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    Its really hard to beat a 127 grain bullet moving at 1250+ FPS, with just a 4 inch barrel. On top of that its a very well designed bullet.

    I pick up the +p+ when I can, but now I have the 147 in my 9mm.
     
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    I shoot this in my GLOCKs, but only go up to +P loads in some lesser guns.
     
  11. glocknbruce

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    the 127 +p+ is my ONLY carry load in my G19.....i have total confidence in this round, one of the top 5 in 9mm...IMO
     
  12. packinaglock

    packinaglock John 3:16

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    Ranger T 127g +p+ in my G26 & G17
    Ranger T 124g +p in my pm9
     
  13. BuckyP

    BuckyP Lifetime Member

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    Excellent round IMO. Have them my P2000 on my hip, and Beretta Vertec in the night stand safe. I did some phone book testing and the only thing that out penetrated it was the 124 +P Gold Dots. Even though it's a +p+ load, I find the recoil a little more manageable than the Gold Dot and it's certainly a cleaner round.
     
  14. CanyonMan

    CanyonMan In The Saddle

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    beforeobamabans FYPM

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    Wisdom alert! Can field experience compete with marketing hype?

    127+p+ just sounds great, doesn't it? A little more weight, a little bit faster, a little more total energy. What's not to like? More is always better, right?

    I fell for it too and in fact still have a few boxes in my inventory. But, they don't sit in my guns anymore. I had a 'failure to feed' with one round that jammed my G26. First and only time that's ever happened to me in a Glock. It was just the odd bad round but this is my EDC and it was locked up tight, turned into a $500 club. Thank the Good Lord this happened at the range and not in a moment of need. It really shook my confidence in this round. I realize this may be a once-in-a-million occurance but it happened to me and I just can't trust it. YMMV
     
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    I think Orlando pd used the 127 load. I like 147gr HST, RangerT, and Gd. In 124gr. I like the 127ranger and GD+p
     
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    I dont think anyone ever doubted that a FMJ would go through a steel plate better than a hollow point, but thanks for the link.

    The 127 +P+ is a great round, I carry them and the 147 HST's in my G19 and G26.
     
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    If I looked at commercial ammo in this light, I'd probably be shooting my own reloads.

    I'd give it another go. It's an excellent ammo. I didn't have a G26 but wanted to try one out at the range so, I rented it. fortunately, I had my G19 with me and two boxes of that same ammo and decided to run the G26 through it's paces with it. although they don't exactly clean those guns daily, after about 40 rounds it never failed-mag filthy and feed ramp looked like a coal pile but it never stuttered.

    I had a similar problem with a G23 and CorBon 165 gr ammo. A nose dive on one round and a bad primer in another round. Federal HST 165 gr in the same 40 S&W caliber, same pistol, had two rounds from the same box that failed. One jammed nose up and another was a squib load. These problems happen with them all sooner or later I've discovered.
     
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    +1 I have a Marlin Camp9 and a LW 40-9mm barrel and after doing a little "redneck" testing, this is the load I would use.
     
  20. SIGShooter

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