Winchester 94 quick report

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  1. Berto

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    Met a friend at the rifle range the other day. He was bringing his older 1894 Winchester 30-30, so I brought my late sixties manufactured '94 also in 30-30.
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    We shared ammo between the two guns, win loaded 170gr soft points and the newer Hornady 160gr Leverevolution Spitzer ammo- uses a soft rubber point to eliminate the tube fed chain fire concerns.
    My own experience with this newer 30-30 load has been limited to paper shooting, but it's an accurate load in both rifles used. Using the buckhorn open sights, we shot at 50 yards and noticed this ammo was about 1.5" higher than the 170gr load.
    Usually I'm good for 5 shot groups at 100 yards around 3-3.5" with this gun and ammo combo, shooting at 50 yards looked about consistent with that or better.
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    I have some peep sights on order, looking forward to seeing what can be done with some better sights.
     
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    Does that Hornady ammo have more zing than regular.30-30?
     
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    From what I've seen, its flatter shooting and while I haven't chronod it, others have and it get better velocity that other brands 150gr.
    Usually right at 2250-2300fps in a 20" gun like mine.
     
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    Great shooting! I am a big fan of lever guns, but sadly lost mine in a tragic boating accident.
     
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  5. Berto

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    Most of my rifles are boat salvage yard recoveries. :D
     
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    Neat old rifle.
     
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    Love 94. Nothing handles better for me.
     
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    Great report as always, Berto :cool:
     
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    Great report nice shooting.


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    Hey B, I like your sheetmetal kitties!

    (nice rifle and some fine shooting there too son) ;)
     
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  11. Berto

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    They're too tinny to hear at 200yrds, so I keep them for decoration.

    :cat:
     
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    VIS07 Never, never, never give up.

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    Berto that's a sweetie for sure.
     
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    No problem, ATF keeps special file for anyone who posts tragic boating accident. It’s an algorithm that cross references your cc purchases to track the ammo that you’re still feeding the guns you tragically lost. :D

    Berto, that’s really good shooting with those sights at 50 yards.

    I like the Williams FP sights and have them on all my iron sight rifles. They adjust just like a scope. I tried others and nothing is as good imo.

    I pair them up with a taller front sight from skinner sights. They have the best options for front sights.
     
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    That Hornady Leverevolution sure works on deer. Last one I shot with a 3030 was with this ammo at approx 50 yards; and it dropped so hard and fast I was a little surprised.

    I too have a win 94 (1969). I would be very interested in another range report after you get your peep sight installed...
     
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    My only 30-30 is a single shot Ruger. My only lever gun ever was a 44 mag 94 I got rid of 20 years ago. I'd like a 38-55 lever gun if I were to get one.
     
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    @Berto
    Which peep sight did you get? I really want to get something more user-friendly for mine too. Its a 1980 model, has the 2 receiver mounting holes on the upper left.
     
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    I ended up choosing the William's 5d peep that mounts as yours does. All the reviews looked positive for adjustability and quality. I was seeing lots if unhappy reviews with Lyman, which is too bad since I like the Lyman peep in my win 67a.
     
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    The 5D are great for the price.

    What front sight are you considering?

    For accuracy (aside from a globe front sight) I have found a square post or blade front sight with a square top to be the best. Bead or dot front sights are less accurate and the least accurate is a fiber optic front sight.
     
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    It depends on how I feel about the existing bead on there now combined with the peep. The bead obscures an 8" bull easily at 100yrds, so certainly there's room for improvement, but I may find it a satisfactory upgrade from the buckhorn combo I'm using now too. I'm getting another 5-6" sight radius by moving to the receiver so I might be happy if I can shoot it better.
    Otherwise, I'll look into a thinner bead or blade as you suggest. I dont care for FO sights either.
     
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    The factory bead front is likely too low. Did you pull a thread from the front, thru the notch of the factory rear to see how it relates to the new peep sight at it's lowest setting?

    That will tell you if the front sight needs to be taller. I needed a taller front sight on every rifle I put a williams peep sight on.

    Also, using a bead front sight, your brain wants to center the "bead" in the peep. When the front sight is a square post, your brain wants to center the top of the post in the center of the peep which makes the sight picture much sharper and the result in more accurate sighting.

    If you do need to replace the front sight, order a sight that's slightly taller than you think you need, and then file it down as needed. I have ordered a sight based on my measurements and it resulted in having to order an even taller sight which required another range trip and more ammo to finally sight in the rifle. Order taller, and spare yourself the grief!
     
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