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I am all about being a "free man". But there is an education component to responsibility. Little fat kids walking around chugging on a 2-liter jug of Coke or Pepsi is NOT a good thing. The parents should be slapped in the head themselves. In this day and age where we all have to pay for the decisions of others, I am more and more demanding that others exercise (pun) a bit of responsibility in their choices. I have to keep fit for my job. I have to take drug tests. i can't eat two whole-fried chickens and wash it down with 2 liters of coke at every meal. So WHY should I have to pay the health care costs of someone who does?

Pay your own bills and not reaching into my pocket? Fine, do what you want. Don't care.
 

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There is a big difference in sodas today compared to years ago. HFCS vs Sugar.
When I drink a soda made with HFCS, I've noticed that 1. it leaves a coating of film in my mouth after each sip and 2. that when I finish a can I have this urge to have another. These things don't happen when I drink a soda made from sugar such as Throwback Pepsi.
HFCS is the devil's invention!
 

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People will say, "I remember when you could drink coke on a plane and in a movie theater."


Forget gold, I'm stockpiling the pink stuff that causes cancer in lab rats to sell on the black market later.
Funny you give that example. We went to visit a friend who gave birth in the hospital last year - Baylor Fort Worth and I go to get a soda from a vending machine and the price was $1.25 and all they sold were 8oz. cans. For my good health no doubt.
 

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Not paleo as much as gluten free. Paleo is a somewhat of a guide, but it's the gluten that is making the difference.

Allergies, gone. Blood pressure was never a problem, but even lower. Sex drive in overdrive. Sleeping better, waking up cleaner. Lost about 20 pounds so far, but that isn't a good indicator because I am weight training again, and gaining muscle mass.

Everyone I know who has gone gluten free is loving it and experiencing the same results.
My wife went this way maybe a year ago and she reports similar results (although I am still waiting for the sex drive overdrive thing). She went full on no wheat products at all, not just Gluten free. She swears by it as well.

For me, life without bread would be a grim fate, so after a short time of going with her on it, I quit and went back to my normal old diet, which would probably be considered pretty healthy by average people's standards. If I thought I could induce the sex drive overdrive thing in my wife, I probably would be willing to forgo the sourdough. If it only is going to happen to me, I will stick with bread. ;)
 

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If I drink six soda pops a year, that's six too many.

I prefer good beers and distilled water as my drinks of choice. :cheers:
 

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Sustainability Issues Related to High Fructose Corn Syrup
How does HFCS relate to sustainable food and agriculture?
  • Corn is a heavily subsidized crop in the U.S. Because of this, many farmers grow corn and nothing else. People often say that our government is subsidizing obesity by continuing corn subsidies. The subsidies keep farmers from growing vegetables and fruit and from growing diversified crops ‘ a very important part of sustainable agriculture.
  • Most of the corn used for HFCS is genetically modified. In fact, it is hard to stay away from GMO corn even if you want to. The Sethness Caramel Color company had this to say about their caramel color made from corn: “In the United States, genetically modified varieties of yellow dent corn are not segregated from traditional yellow dent corn. Consequently, corn wet millers purchasing corn on the open market are most probably using an agricultural raw material that does contain some GMO corn.” Yellow dent corn is most of the corn crop in the U.S. and is not edible by humans.
  • HFCS has replaced sugar in many processed foods mostly due to the fact that it is cheaper than sugar. It is cheaper than sugar because of taxpayer-funded government subsidies for corn and government tariffs on imports of sugar. Basing decisions about food on the cheapest product available is what led to the industrial food system that we are now fighting against.
  • Intensive corn production is taxing on the environment, especially on soil and water.
http://www.sustainabletable.org/704...yrup-if-this-doesn-t-convince-you-nothing-wil

So, setting aside whether or not HFCS is less healthy than cane or beet sugar, the main reason why its use seems to be so prevalent is price manipulation by Federal government policy. Probably moderation in all is the best policy rather than banning certain foods. In any event, the consumption of "soda" in the US has been steadily decreasing for years.
 

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From my perspective, the thing I dislike about the "progressive viewpoint" on sodas is they think new laws curtailing its availability is how you solve a problem which is rooted in a culture of bad parenting. It is the whole "it takes a village to raise a child" thing. To me that title is a metaphor for, "only we, the Federal government, can truly raise your child properly".

On education, I am all for it as long as it is rooted in fact and not belief systems. I am a skeptic of human nature, so when somebody offers me their anecdotal experience with regard to a certain type of diet, I say, "good for them, tell everyone you know about your experience, proselytize it if it suits you and definitely keep doing it unless/until it stops giving you what you need", just don't turn your positive result into public policy unless you have plenty of real scientific data to back your claim that something is actually deleterious or beneficial in the broader population. A bunch of people all nodding at the same time isn't science, it is fashion.
 

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For me, life without bread would be a grim fate, so after a short time of going with her on it, I quit and went back to my normal old diet, which would probably be considered pretty healthy by average people's standards. If I thought I could induce the sex drive overdrive thing in my wife, I probably would be willing to forgo the sourdough. If it only is going to happen to me, I will stick with bread. ;)
I love pastries. I used to love those little white powdered doughnuts. Now when I see them, they look like poison. The way I feel is much better than the feeling of eating the sweets. They are like soda, once you get away from them for a while, you don't know what the attraction was. It could be that those of us who see significant improvement are "gluten insensitive" and the payoff is worth it, where some people are not gluten insensitive and don't see results enough to cause the change. After a month, I knew gluten free was for me.

"She went full on no wheat products at all, not just Gluten free." I wasn't aware there was a difference.

I read a biotech article a few weeks ago about a company developing a drug that allows celiacs to eat gluten. That would be cool. I would much rather see food companies and farmers going back to the old heirloom wheat, but that's not likely seeing how what they have now was bred for profit.

As for your wife and the sex drive thing..... maybe you could change your hair color or something. Grow a pony tail. IOW, it might not be the gluten......:whistling:
 

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You rat liberal socialist bas***ds can take my 12oz Coke can from my cold dead hands. I'm a life member of the NSA. Soda doesn't cause obesity. Drinkers of excess cause obesity.
 

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I only subscribe to the 5 basic food groups are best for us. You know … sugar, salt, fat, chocolate (yes, its own category), and alcohol.

On a serious note, I do partake of all of the above in moderation. And soda … diet (yes with aspartame) but only a 7 oz can 5 or 6 per week, so less than 1 per day. Moderation is the key … not deprival.
 

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If I drink six soda pops a year, that's six too many.

I prefer good beers and distilled water as my drinks of choice. :cheers:
You drink distilled water?
 
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